What Is This???

[yigos flower]

i dont get it?? why are there so many gosh dang post about selling your gliders.. geeze, WHEN YOU BUY AN ANIMAL YOU ARE 100% COMMITTED TO IT TIL IT DIES! animals arent just things you get rid of when you dont feel like taking care of it!!! :kaioken: thats just WRONG! not to mention you are suppost to have a license to sell, or even give them away!!!!!! :wall:
why get rid of them?? because YOU made an impluse buy & now cant control it, or its mean because you dont play with it!!!!! :kaioken: * ITS NOT THE ANIMALS FAULT* its yours for not reasearching your animal upon buying!


*absolutely ridiculous!!!*
:kaioken: :kaioken: :devil: :wall:

[andreaS15]

:tup: :nod:
It's the "Oh it's SO cute" factor. :ashamed:

I watched the same thing happen around here years ago with sugar gliders and hedgehogs. If the poor things didn't die :crybucket from malnutrition or what not, they were passed from home to home. :irked:

It's so depressing and disgusting. But i'm not sure what we can do about it. I guess only educate the new owners of the health and care these pets need, and hope they are able to do the best they can for the little critters.
Unfortunetly we can't say "No, don't get one", b/c these people are not going to listen. "Impulse buyers" are everywhere.
I would love to see laws for people to have to take courses and get a license to have children and pets, but i doubt that will ever happen.....

[yigos flower]

i couldnt agree with you more!!!!!!!!!!

i do try to educate the people.. i would rather them know in the time they do have them then not.. i always try to tell someone i see posting about this how they can help bond with them, or whatever, but sometimes your right, you cant do anything about it! & honestly something should be done since the animals cannot tell.. they think selling them will help.. not in any means! it will actually put them even deeper(most times) in the hole.. people dont get, if you give it time TIME & more time, they will bond, be nice & be your BEST friend!!!!! they dont see that they a HUGE compared to the glider & it is SO incredibly SCARED!!!!!


people rethink selling your gliders!!!!!!!!!! they will be more loyal to you than your dog!!!=] give it TIME!
*good things come to those who wait*

[yigos flower]

ridiculous!

[Jennie]

You know some people who sell their gliders, like myself, have to. Due to moving, lack of time because of a busier work/school schedual. I mean things come up that people can't perdict. None of us are mind reader or fortune tellers, we don't know what the next day is going to bring. So before you start going off on why people are selling these awsome critters, why don't you hear their story beforeyou assume that the glider was just an impules buy.

[yigos flower]

You know some people who sell their gliders, like myself, have to. Due to moving, lack of time because of a busier work/school schedual. I mean things come up that people can't perdict. None of us are mind reader or fortune tellers, we don't know what the next day is going to bring. So before you start going off on why people are selling these awsome critters, why don't you hear their story beforeyou assume that the glider was just an impules buy.



why are you being so defensive? i was stating that many only do so because they cannot tame them.. did i say you were doing it for a bad reason? NO i didnt.. i dont know you, your glider, or your reason. but i do have to say, either reason on why your selling, you should have thought about before bringing this little guy or girl home. you should always think about school,work,time for you, kids, & so on before taking on another life to care for. you knew i would assume, how long they live for, therefore you should have thought about what you would be doing with your life in that time frame. i wasnt being at all rude to you, just people that do this to the poor little ones in general. you dont know how much i see this happen. its not fair!!! your not even suppost to give away a glider without a USDA lisence little lone selling it! i just think people should rethink selling one. they dont take much time, although they do. (if that makes sence) i dunno though, i dont see why you have gotten so deffensive about it. its not like your doing it for the 'wrong' or 'right' reason..

i just feel when you committ to an animal you committ til the day it dies. not if something just comes up.. they didnt just 'come up' did they?
take a chill pill, i wasnt attacking you.. just all the stupid people that dont give wonderful little speechless creatures a chance.
sprry you cant make 2 hours a day for your 'awesome critters.'

[Jennie]

I'm sorry, I was upset over something else and took it out on here. So this post will be much calmer.
While you did not attack me directly I believe that there are many more people selling their gliders because something came up then you think. While I do believe that people are selling them because the novalty has worn off, I have seen many more but truely saddened because they have to sell their babies.

You cannot always tell what is going to happen in the future, that is why it is called the UNexpected. You don't know what life changing decisions you are going to have to make, weather it be a new comming child or having to move to an illeagel state, you just don't know at the time you are buying a glider.

I understand where you are comming from, I hav seen it happen too but please don't lump everyone to has to sell a glider into this catagory.

Also, if you are giving a glider away you do not need a USDA liscense. The same goes for if you are selling everyone. You only need a liscense for breeding. It's jus stupid for a person to take 6-8 weeks and sometimes longer to get a liscense, pay the fees when they have to sell their glider in 2 weeks and that is all they are going to sell. Ask your USDA inspector, if you have one, and that is what their answer will be.

I hope this sounded better, I really didn't mean to sound as put off as I did sound. I apoligize.

[yigos flower]

I'm sorry, I was upset over something else and took it out on here. So this post will be much calmer.
While you did not attack me directly I believe that there are many more people selling their gliders because something came up then you think. While I do believe that people are selling them because the novalty has worn off, I have seen many more but truely saddened because they have to sell their babies.

You cannot always tell what is going to happen in the future, that is why it is called the UNexpected. You don't know what life changing decisions you are going to have to make, weather it be a new comming child or having to move to an illeagel state, you just don't know at the time you are buying a glider.

I understand where you are comming from, I hav seen it happen too but please don't lump everyone to has to sell a glider into this catagory.

Also, if you are giving a glider away you do not need a USDA liscense. The same goes for if you are selling everyone. You only need a liscense for breeding. It's jus stupid for a person to take 6-8 weeks and sometimes longer to get a liscense, pay the fees when they have to sell their glider in 2 weeks and that is all they are going to sell. Ask your USDA inspector, if you have one, and that is what their answer will be.

I hope this sounded better, I really didn't mean to sound as put off as I did sound. I apoligize.


i think anyone will back me up on this..
i hate to break it to you, but you do need a lisence to sell, trade,give away your glider.. even if it is just one... trust me ..

[mckenzie84]

I am going to be buying two maybe 3 sugar gliders. And no I'm not an impulse buyer. I have been doing tons of reserach on these wonderful critters and I know that they can live 10-15 years. Once I get a pet, if for some reason I have to move, the animals come with me and I find a place that will allow me to keep them, even if it means that I have to pay extra money. Also, I am about to buy a hosue so I won't be moving for quite some time, if ever again. This August I will go back to school to be a vet. I have already found a vet near me that knows about sugar gliders and that sort of pets. not all people are impulse buyers, there are a lot of people though. I currently have several hamsters and I always make sure every one of them gets attention every single day even if it means i lose a bit of sleep. I can make several hours of day to give the sugar gliders that i am buying the attentiont they need. I have a time set up around my work schedule so that they do get attention. I also understand that they do require a special diet that must be homemade and not store bought. Personally, I don't like people who do buy pets because they look cute and then suddenly decide they dont want the pet anymore because they cant tame it or them. I know ways to take animals and even though it may take a bit of extra TLC it is well worth the effort.

[yigos flower]

correct!
i never ment it to seem like i thought EVERYONE that has bought or will buy a glider is doing it out of 'impulse.' but many do. more than what others may think. that doesnt do a lick of good on that animal that needs to ajust to smells sounds & lighting! they do need a lot of work & at the same time not too much to where you cant take it out of your time.(especially if you are the one who bought it!) i just see it a lot.. too many people are quick to set them up for sale! work with them, make the time, get 2 hours less of sleep, eat lunch fast.. you can take these little guys almost anywhere for heavens sake!! they all in all arent that hard to take care of, but that also just depends on how you look at it. they need at least two hours a day with you, as well as free time to play, they need their food made DAILY, & monthly.(to make the mix) they need to be cleaned up after, & yes, can sometimes fling a lot of food out of the cage! they are so much different that what you expect.. i have friends with them & i still expected something totally different! i do love them, & probly more now that i would have had they been like i thought! they have made me work to be in their lives! & i love-ed every minute of it! i just with some other people actually had the passion to keep trying with their pets other than being so fact to jump the gun at giving or selling them away! these little guys are so frightened of you & you dont realize that.. your so much bigger.. it takes them a while to see that you wont hurt them, then the bonding begins & that in its self can be trying! but as long as you have read up on how & you stay positive & patient then all is normally well! just wish some people would wait more before getting them. a month or so is great at reasearching, but a good year at least is even better. going around someone with them is also a great way to learn more about them so you know if they are 'right' for you. just dont jump into things too quickly!
anywho, this is too long, so i will stop my ranting & raving! lol hope i changed someones mind! or helped them see that there are people out there that want you to second think if your ready or not...

[tigereize]

yigo, I am one of the people who has had a sugarglider, and gave it away. I bought one, I had researched it and all before hand. I had her for almost a year, and in that year, it just didn't work out! I couldn't get her to tame, no matter how hard I tried, and she was bitting me constantly. No matter what I did, there was no change in her. So I gave her to a friend of mine, and the thing is a complete angel now. We just were not a match. No matter how much you research, you don't know for sure until you have the animal whether it is right for you or not.

[yigos flower]

your right, i said that already...

i just think others should see them before, & know that not all cases do they turn into nice little gliders. but thats not their fault.

[tigereize]

sorry, I didn't know if you said it already, I just read what you wrote and automatically posted because it offended me. It kind of made me feel horrible. I still think the Sugar Gliders are the cutest thing in the world, and I remember the stories of people telling me that they take them out with them when they go to places and they are the sweetest things in the world. I wish Buggie (my ex-sugar glidder) turned out that way. But now I have my ferrets, and I think they are the best pets in the world. I take them to places with me all the time, they go for walks, and I have taught them to acually follow me on their leash so I can walk them out in public. I couldn't ask for anything better than them.

[eneill]

take a chill pill, i wasnt attacking you.. just all the stupid people that dont give wonderful little speechless creatures a chance.
sprry you cant make 2 hours a day for your 'awesome critters.'

Who needs to take a chill pill? I believe you do Yigos!

[eneill]

i think anyone will back me up on this..
i hate to break it to you, but you do need a lisence to sell, trade,give away your glider.. even if it is just one... trust me ..

This is what the USDA website is saying.

USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service

Licensing and Registration
Under the Animal Welfare Act

Guidelines for Dealers, Exhibitors,
Transporters, and Researchers
Exempt Businesses


Direct Sales--Anyone who sells domestic pets directly to pet owners is exempt, regardless of sales volume. Such sales can be made in person or by mail.

[mckenzie84]

I know that I am completely ready for sugar gliders. I have been studying for quite some time plus one of my teachers a couple years ago had one and I handled him a lot. Plus several of my friends had sugar gliders and i handled them and got to see how they were. I'm not jumping the gun or saying that i am offended by what everyone or anyone is saying. yes some people do impulse by (like my mother in law). But I already have my schedule worked out and once i have my little gliders i will work on getting them used to me and then they will go places with me. my school will even let me bring them with me. the class is really small and quiet so they won't feel too pressured or anything if i do decide to bring them with me one day. plus the classes are really short. I already have everything planned out and i have even planned out the next 10 or so years of my life, to my best ability that is. so I know i'm ready and i cant wait to get the little darlings home with me.

[yigos flower]

I know that I am completely ready for sugar gliders. I have been studying for quite some time plus one of my teachers a couple years ago had one and I handled him a lot. Plus several of my friends had sugar gliders and i handled them and got to see how they were. I'm not jumping the gun or saying that i am offended by what everyone or anyone is saying. yes some people do impulse by (like my mother in law). But I already have my schedule worked out and once i have my little gliders i will work on getting them used to me and then they will go places with me. my school will even let me bring them with me. the class is really small and quiet so they won't feel too pressured or anything if i do decide to bring them with me one day. plus the classes are really short. I already have everything planned out and i have even planned out the next 10 or so years of my life, to my best ability that is. so I know i'm ready and i cant wait to get the little darlings home with me.


im really happy to see your devotion.. you really seem as though your going to be a great glider owner one day!!!! i cant wait to hear how everytthing goes for you & your little one! just remember they do make a lot of noises & they are LOUD! you you will have to warn everyone in the class! lol hehe good luck!!

[yigos flower]

Who needs to take a chill pill? I believe you do Yigos!



heh what is your problem? i dont have one with you, or anyone here for that matter. it takes a lot of guts to say that you gave one up. I respect that! i just think a lot of people could make a bit of time to keep their gliders. & yes i understand how it is to have one that wont bond. i have one like that! =] i dont feel that you have any right to attack me personally. i had no reason to make this a personal battle. i just want people to see that where they may be getting their little one from might not have been the best of places, or even the only place for that matter!!! i also want to maybe change someones mind for the better so they keep their little one! (i already have, & i have had a few emails thanking me for that!) i feel someone should say something since these poor things cant! one more glider that has a loving home is one less glider without one up on these ads. im sorry i feel strongly about animals rights, but maybe you have a differnet opinion & i respect that as well, but you cant make me feel like giving something up is right.just my opinion. i think you should have to stick it out!some people dont believe that & thats ok. i would just rather others know what they may or may not be getting into..

[yigos flower]

This is what the USDA website is saying.

USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service

Licensing and Registration
Under the Animal Welfare Act

Guidelines for Dealers, Exhibitors,
Transporters, and Researchers
Exempt Businesses


Direct Sales--Anyone who sells domestic pets directly to pet owners is exempt, regardless of sales volume. Such sales can be made in person or by mail.

i suppost you are going to make me going hunting. you do have to have a lisence in which to sell, trade, or give away your glider. i know this because i have 4, & have read up lots on the lisence & am currently getting mine. i know many people will back me up, just a lot of them dont use this forum. this forum isnt highly known/used for sugar glider things.


but i will do the great hunt for the info, but im going to be first! =]

[Jennie]

im sorry i feel strongly about animals rights,

I feel very strong about animal rights as well. But to lump everyone that has to sell a glider into one catagory where you have clearly said that they are wrong for selling a glider is wrong. I will say it again, things come up. And in all reality, I'm sorry, but you cannot plan out everything that is going to happen in 10 years, just not possible. You can plan out the big plans but they are going to change and I can garentee that.

And Yigos you are right about having to have a liscense to sell a glider but if you give it away with no compensation, no gas money no nothing, you do not need one. Ask your inspector. And while you may need one, the USDA does not go after people that have to sell their gliders for one reason or another that are not breeders. If they did and fined a lot of people, then there would not be as many ads on the internet as there are because the USDA would just sit on here and start fining everyone who did not have a liscense. So complaining that someone who is selling their crew without a liscense is stupid. sorry.

[eneill]

i suppost you are going to make me going hunting.

Whaaaat?

but i will do the great hunt for the info, but im going to be first! =]


Ok. ???

I just listed what the USDA website is saying. If you are a breeder, than that's a different story, you DO need a license. At least that's how I read their explanation. Check out their site and see what it sais.

[eneill]

i dont feel that you have any right to attack me personally.

I didn't. I Just meant that you need to calm down and take a breather. You were the one telling Jenny to take a chill pill when in fact you were the one on a rant.

i also want to maybe change someones mind for the better so they keep their little one! (i already have, & i have had a few emails thanking me for that!)

Good for you!

but you cant make me feel like giving something up is right.

How did I do that? Where in my post did I imply such a thing?

[yigos flower]

hmm, i dunno i guess no one read all of what i said.
im not blaming someone that really needs to give up their loved creature. i do understand, & that they are making the choice out of respect for the animal. (at least i would hope) but a lot of people dont do it for the animal, they do it for THEM. i see that when someone gives it up because it jsut sits in a cage or doesnt get fed, or what have you.. i do understand that. its BETTER for the animal to get out. but i dont see why some people dont try a bit harder. i also have stated that im not calling out anyone, just simply a fact that a lot of people dont see. its nice how something can be so great for like two months the gradually turns into a wall decoration that barely gets attention. i think its better for the animal to get out when it turns to that, yes! but i think some people could take the hour or two a day or even everyother day for that matter, to play with thier beloved companion. i personally cannot see myself giving up ANY of mine for ANY reason. i love them, & frankly getting rid of them is NOT an option that im not willing to look into. i look into changing what i have to do in order to keep them. (& yes, i do see some people cant do that, & in that case then, yes again, its better to get rid of them.)

as for the lisence, i do asure you, you DO have to have one. even ifg your not a breeder. to give one away you should. & your right, most people dont have one. but thats all done illegally. (& your also right, most cops/DNR dont hunt down those people that are selling, buying, trading, or giving away one or two.) * but it still doesnt mean its legal.*
i will have to do the hunting & find my records of the USDA, & maybe go get some of my glider buddies.lol

[yigos flower]

I feel very strong about animal rights as well. But to lump everyone that has to sell a glider into one catagory where you have clearly said that they are wrong for selling a glider is wrong. I will say it again, things come up. And in all reality, I'm sorry, but you cannot plan out everything that is going to happen in 10 years, just not possible. You can plan out the big plans but they are going to change and I can garentee that.

And Yigos you are right about having to have a liscense to sell a glider but if you give it away with no compensation, no gas money no nothing, you do not need one. Ask your inspector. And while you may need one, the USDA does not go after people that have to sell their gliders for one reason or another that are not breeders. If they did and fined a lot of people, then there would not be as many ads on the internet as there are because the USDA would just sit on here and start fining everyone who did not have a liscense. So complaining that someone who is selling their crew without a liscense is stupid. sorry.



im not lumping on everyone.. im 'lumping' on the people that arent responding to this.. they know who they are.. & they are the ones that gave up their glider because they didnt learn what they should have. i said already i understand some peoples reasons, but you will never know what some excuses i have heard. its ridiculous. im not ripping on you or anyone else. that takes guts to say you gave one up. & i bet you wish you still had it. you are one that did or does truley care.. i just cant see someone caring really giving up something that in all reality doesnt need much time at all.. (& you can take almost anywhere.)
but to each his own.

this thread was just to inform & vent.

i guess if no one likes what im saying they dont have to click the link to this page then?
another reason they may not like what i have to say, because they are mad someone is talking negative about something they did.

but i dont see why these people that gave them away from a 'good reason' are getting upset. (they should have nothing to be upset about in the first place if they arent like the 'people' im talking about to begin with.

[yigos flower]

I didn't. I Just meant that you need to calm down and take a breather. You were the one telling Jenny to take a chill pill when in fact you were the one on a rant.



Good for you!



How did I do that? Where in my post did I imply such a thing?


i dont feel i was in need to take a 'breather' or calm down. im not upset about anything. just voicing my opinion strongly. i do believe in what i have to say. if you dont, you dont have to be a part of the thread.. easy as that. i havent made this into a personal attack on anyone, but it seems as though you have with me.? i dont know why.. its not like i stated 'eneill, you were the one i know of that got rid of your glider for a bad reason, or yada yada yada.. ' ya know? i didnt single you out or anything. i dont know you, or if you have even owned a glider ever in your life. this was just a Vent session for me. if you dont like it then dont read it. dont be upset with me over things other people do. (& just because i dislike it so much i feel the need to voice how i feel.) & i dont think everyone, or anyone for that matter needs to agree with me..? just how i feel.


also, yes, i do think its good for me. i am happy to help others out to learn more about the animals they may be getting. this is a matter of a snob off or anything. heh. im just here to let others know to watch where they get their gliders from. also that they DO live long & will be a BIG part of your/their lives! be nasty all you want. thats not going to make me feel bad about it. there is no reason for me to.

[yigos flower]

Whaaaat?




Ok. ???

I just listed what the USDA website is saying. If you are a breeder, than that's a different story, you DO need a license. At least that's how I read their explanation. Check out their site and see what it sais.


heh i was saying i was going to have to go hunting for the info on the USDA since you dont believe me.


i was also stating that i was going to do the hunt later but was going to go to bed. (sorry i misspelled things. i thought you would have gotten it.) it was late at night, & i didnt feel like editing me post.. so i left it in your hands to figure it out. i guess i was wrong & should have edited since you made a big deal about it. but now you know what its suppost to mean.. there ya go... =]

[Jennie]

im not lumping on everyone.. im 'lumping' on the people that arent responding to this.. they know who they are.. & they are the ones that gave up their glider because they didnt learn what they should have. i said already i understand some peoples reasons, but you will never know what some excuses i have heard. its ridiculous. im not ripping on you or anyone else. that takes guts to say you gave one up. & i bet you wish you still had it. you are one that did or does truley care.. i just cant see someone caring really giving up something that in all reality doesnt need much time at all.. (& you can take almost anywhere.)
but to each his own.

this thread was just to inform & vent.

i guess if no one likes what im saying they dont have to click the link to this page then?
another reason they may not like what i have to say, because they are mad someone is talking negative about something they did.

but i dont see why these people that gave them away from a 'good reason' are getting upset. (they should have nothing to be upset about in the first place if they arent like the 'people' im talking about to begin with.

I'm sorry, that was the activist in me comming out. I really do like what you have to say and I agree but from what I got out of your first post you were mad at everyone who had to sell a glider. And I can see why the people who have to sell them for a good reason are getting upset because we are the only ones who have the guts to post anything about this. The people who baught a glider as a nolvity pet are probably have a bright red face while reading this.
Truce?

[yigos flower]

like i said, there is no reason for someone who did it for the 'right' reasons to be upset. i see they may not agree that i should voice my opinion, but thats kinda what these threada are about. (mainly)
i dont even need to call a truce because i was never upset with you or anyone else for the matter. i dont know who is in the right & whos in the wrong. i was just telling others their glider may have been 'used.'

& i would really like to see this fourm come to a slow about selling gliders. its not only illegal, but why cant others find the way to keep them. if they are so beloved to the person wouldnt you think they would try as hard as they could to keep it? im not saying some dont, but i think its just a bit too easy for some others.

i will call a truce even though we dont need one. im not upset with you. never was, never will be. there isnt anything i singly can do to help the gliders out. i just feel that i can try my hardest to let people be aware of what they are getting into. (& that maybe they should in fact take an extra few months to think about where they will be in X-amount of years.)

like i said, i never started this post out of being rude or mean.. i simply started it to open some peoples eyes that its not just the breeders selling, or an ocassional person who cant keep it. theres a new thread almost everyday saying they cant keep their glider. (& i have received a few emails of people letting me know what i had said truely opened their eyes.) if i can change the mind of a few people, then a few others being mad at me is all worth while.

[mckenzie84]

I'll kep everyone updated once i get my little gliders. It's going to be very soon. I will warn my class about it and my teacher has already said its fine to bring them in. :-)

[yigos flower]

heheh thats too cool!!
i wish i could take mine to school with me. lol
everyone is scared of them there though??? i dunno why?
they think they look like bats, & they kinda do, but they are too cute & wont hurt you. ('they are more scared of you than you are them') ;)
congrats! good luck with your littles!

[mckenzie84]

A lot of people are scared of them. But I think they are wonderful. I do already have quite a few pets and every one of them gets loads of attention every day. When I get the little guys I am going to make sure they are very compfortable with me and everything before they go everywhere. I'll probably let me crawl on me while i am at the comp etc or soemthing. and if he or she feels like taking a glide down to the floor, ok i'll let him or her.i'm sugar gliding proof my home so that they cant hurt anything and so that nothing can hurt them. Eventually I plan on letting them have free reign of one room by themselves so that they dont feel cooped up or anthing if for some reason i cant give them at least two hours to play or something. but i know that i have plenty of time for them and i am getting so excited every day!

[yigos flower]

watch for your drains!! they can fit in the tinyest places~! =]
also another thing most people dont know about is the cat nip! catnip is HIGHLY toxic to them, so make sure if your cat has some, you wash your hands after giving it to the cat, & you make sure its no where near the gliders!!!!


you should also have two. that the most important thing other than the diet!

i would also advise against letting them have a whole room. a room is nice for them to play in, but it can be just too harmful to them as well as makes them not as tame. some people do so, but i personally do not agree. a nice BIG bird cage will do fine. (a tent to play in or a safe proofed room is fine too, but i think any wild animal should be caged when kept as a pet.)
not only for them, but for you. gliders dont smell the best, & can you imagine having your carpet stained with their smell? or even hard wood, or tile flooring would become stained with the smell.. but i guess to each his own & if thats what you want to do, then there is no one stopping you! =]
anywho, again, good luck with your new little ones! just make sure to look into what all to do in order to keep them as safe as you can. (you will also need to cover the window well, so they dont glide into it. many people have lost a glider to such a simple thing to fix before letting them out!

[mckenzie84]

ok oops i need to retype what i mean. I mean that they will have quite a large cage but they are going to be in a room that is completely glider proof so that i can let them run free for a while in that room. they wont always be free in their but will get some time to just do whatever in there. plus they will get plenty of time with me

[cheebo1]

my good friendhas gliders and it is amazing of what he has done he has 2 gliders and he has lots of money so he made a room in his house only for gliders he has it completely glider proof and there is nothin in the room except for glider substrate and the gliders toys it is great i have never seen anything lie it i will try to get a picture :wavey:

[yigos flower]

yeah, there are lots of people that have a room for them, but i do not agree 100% with that, but thats my opinion. i dont think they are as tame that way, because what do they need you for, certainly not to get out of the cage to play!!
& i just dont like the fact that their pee is sticky, & smells. that would just make a mess i would think!! :sick:

[cheebo1]

yeah i would too i don;t knwo how he takes care of it but he is older retired and spens alot of tiem in the room with them playing and things so they depend on him to become for some entertainemnt i guess ..i donno his sugar glyder relationship is weird

[yigos flower]

posted twice.. oops! :dodgy:

[yigos flower]

yeah, i work at home, & i still dont think i get enough time with them.

*psst* i think everyones relationship with a glider is weird LOL


they can be very loyal to their owners..

[cheebo1]

yeah i have never actually owned a glider but i spend alot of time at this guys house he also owns two salcata tortioses which i raised from babies for him for about 4 years or so. ( i alreayd had a big talk with wizzasmum about it :sick: ) and i have found that even me staying with the animals in the room for sometimes 3 hours at a time just playin with them i have developed a good relationship...u see i have alot of time on my hands when i'm not workin at the pet shop and takin care of all my animals :wavey:

[yigos flower]

hehehe yeah, i have a lot of time on my hands too.. haha i looked at my posts on chins & quills, & wow, im up to about 1070 some posts! lol

what some of us will do for our animals!!
i wish all people could be like that!=/ (instead of being so fast to sell it!)

[Jennie]

like i said, i never started this post out of being rude or mean.. i simply started it to open some peoples eyes that its not just the breeders selling, or an ocassional person who cant keep it. theres a new thread almost everyday saying they cant keep their glider. (& i have received a few emails of people letting me know what i had said truely opened their eyes.) if i can change the mind of a few people, then a few others being mad at me is all worth while.


No you didn't. No where in your first post is there any warning about some people that sell gliders are not breeders. In your first post you are yelling at people who sell gliders with out a liscense. And if your post really "opened people's eyes" that some people out there were selling gliders with out a liscense and that were not breeders, then those people need to get out more often cause that is just a given.

[yigos flower]

heh, ok, ya got me.. but so what, i dont mean to bash someone who is doing it because they absolutley have to, im bashing those who are just getting rid of the animal becuase they are A. lazy
b. dont want to deal with a mean animal. or C. because they just dont want it anymore because its too much hassle.
should only be getting rid of it if they are moving & cannot have them, or they really have a physical reason why they can care for it.

there are indeed a lot of people that have thanked me, so i see no wrong in what i have said. people faught in the line of dutey to make this world a free spoke place to live.. if you dont agree, then you dont have to. i do in fact think its VERY wrong to give up an animal that was 'so loved.' if you love it, you wont back out on it for a dumb reason.. & i can see it being hard to deal with if you cant get a place that allows animals.. thats understandable.. you seem so damn defensive about this that im only led to believe that you may have done it for the wrong reason.. no one is yelling at anyone, im just upset to see how many people buy & sell & buy & sell these guys. they deserve to go to a home they WONT be leaving!

[yigos flower]

hmmm, in this thread it doesnt look like this girl is at all upset by me saying what i thought.. she seemed VERY happy i helped her to see its not her fault, nor the gliders.. she now still has her baby!
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http://www.petshub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13017


i dunno, make your judgement, but i feel i have saved one from going up for sale, so thats enough for me to deal with others being mad at me..

[Jennie]

I'm getting defensive just like other people have too in this thread. I speak for the ones that either choose not to or can't because they are not on this board. It's me.
I see something wrong because again in your intion post you yelled at all of us. Didn't put any disclaimer. And all you did was give that animal a little more time untill she decides again to put it up for sale. Conragts your delaying the inevitable. Pat yourself on the back for that one. And while "helping" these people, have you ever thought that they just might not be glider people? Why not allow the animal to be in a home where someone will love and care for them like they should be? But I bet that never crossed your mind did it? Cause everyone that owns a glider should be a glider person right?

[yigos flower]

I'm getting defensive just like other people have too in this thread. I speak for the ones that either choose not to or can't because they are not on this board. It's me.
I see something wrong because again in your intion post you yelled at all of us. Didn't put any disclaimer. And all you did was give that animal a little more time untill she decides again to put it up for sale. Conragts your delaying the inevitable. Pat yourself on the back for that one. And while "helping" these people, have you ever thought that they just might not be glider people? Why not allow the animal to be in a home where someone will love and care for them like they should be? But I bet that never crossed your mind did it? Cause everyone that owns a glider should be a glider person right?















Yup!!!! :boat:
if you are wise enough to get the glider, you should be wise enough to find out that you are or arent a glider person before even purchesing the animal(s).. :wizard:
there are lots of way to be sure your a glider person,, visit people with them & play with & watch theirs..maybe baby sit someone elses for a week..
umm, you can talk with many breeder & ask any questions you'd like, you can get a book, you can go on forums. you can find out a lot on what kind of animal person you are by taking your time when getting an animal, not just rushing into it. many breeder are happy to help you learn that!;) :saturn:
you know, that girl did end up GIVING AWAY her glider to a lady who know & bred gliders.. (she just gave it to someone who she knew,who knows about them) i see that being better than selling it to a complete stranger as well. just trying to get rid of it & make an easy 100 sum bux..
argue with me all you will.. im a stubborn person, grew up with 4 siblings! :surfing: heh i can take it. im standing up for my rights as well as the gliders, & i see NO wrong what so ever in that! you may think its ok, but i do not.. leave it at that.. :hug:

[Pixiestyx]

It doesn't suprise me at all that people treat exotic pets as 'throwaways', I see it all the time with cats and dogs, which are (in my opinion) easier to care for, simply because there are more resources available to owners of more common pets. You know what? Pets are like children. When you get a pet, you are agreeing to care for an living creature that cannot care for itself (at least in the enviorment you are in), you aren't buying a toy, or a piece of furniture, you are adopting a living thing! Not like a plant, either! If you aren't willing to deal with your pet being sick, a little monster, messy, noisy, or whatever, don't get one. Sort of like with a kid. Man, I just want to smack all these people who get animals without thinking first. Hey, at least most of those sugar gliders aren't going to end up abandoned at the pound, joining the hundreds of thousands of dogs and cats killed in this country every year because of pet owners who don't act responsibly! GRRRRRRRRR!

[yigos flower]

It doesn't suprise me at all that people treat exotic pets as 'throwaways', I see it all the time with cats and dogs, which are (in my opinion) easier to care for, simply because there are more resources available to owners of more common pets. You know what? Pets are like children. When you get a pet, you are agreeing to care for an living creature that cannot care for itself (at least in the enviorment you are in), you aren't buying a toy, or a piece of furniture, you are adopting a living thing! Not like a plant, either! If you aren't willing to deal with your pet being sick, a little monster, messy, noisy, or whatever, don't get one. Sort of like with a kid. Man, I just want to smack all these people who get animals without thinking first. Hey, at least most of those sugar gliders aren't going to end up abandoned at the pound, joining the hundreds of thousands of dogs and cats killed in this country every year because of pet owners who don't act responsibly! GRRRRRRRRR!


i cant thank you enough for posting!!!!

your right, most gliders wont end up in the pound.. there will always be someone willing to take it in.. then put it right back out there up for sale.. then that little being goes from home to home to home until it actually finds someone good, or until it dies. i agree, an animal is a commitment you made when buying, getting, taking.. you dont just decide you cant do it anymore. i can slighty understand if you are moving somewhere that you cant have it, but even then, in todays world there are A LOT OF HOME WHERE ANIMALS are allowed, yes, even apartments! heck its not like you couldnt hide a glider if you HAD to. put the cage in a closet.. its not like during the DAY when a person would come to inspect, the glider would be AWAKE! i just dont get it!! i really dont! if you all that are selling your animal really say & MEAN that you love that animal, why cant you make a WAY for them to stay with you. i could never see being able to give up my animals, unless i absolutley had to, meaning, had no money to feed them, HAD to go to the few places that dont allow animals.or some other kind of life tradgety emergency..i would still try my damnedest to keep my babies! even if i had to hid them in my apt. i think i would do just about anything i could to keep them. they are all a part of me & my daily life. *it does get stressful* but they have to eat & have their time! but i also decided to get these animals. i thought about it very hard! i reshearched a long time to have them. i do in fact think im a great pet owner! i have learned & still learing so many new things about them. i went to see how they were before saying one night, 'i think i want a glider.' then the next night going to get it. its just weird how so many people can want a glider SO bad, then a month later it be up for sale.. i cannot let that go unnoticed.. that bothers me a lot! i know it hurts the gliders as well!!! it breaks my heart... i hate seeing animals in need. JUST PLEASE IF YOUR THINKING OF GETTING A GLIDER, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT& DO THE REASEARCH! ALOT!!!!


sorry the long post.. but i do really feel strongly about this.. & i know im not in the wrong at all!i would like all others to be aware this is happening.. take a look.. forums from here to the next are all pack with gliders for sale.. & i KNOW there are not THAT many people that do it.. i know theres a good share, but not like this! any calssified for animals that has gliders on it WILL have a TON of them for sale, from people that ARENT breeders! its sad!

[Pixiestyx]

Ha, yeah, I know about making sacrafices for my fuzzies, had to travel by Greyhound for two and a half days when I moved across the country, just so I could afford to bring my cat- he got to take an airplane. But you can't put a price on companionship and unconditional love, and if you aren't getting a pet for the joy and companionship you'll be getting, maybe you should just spend your money on a new stereo system or bigger TV, or whatever else won't get hurt when you get tired of it and dump it.
By the way, I think sugar gliders are one of the cutest animals on the freakin' planet, but after trying to get medical care for my hamster, and finding no one to help her, I've decided not to get any more 'exotic' fuzzies unless I know I'll be able to provide for them in every way possible.

[yigos flower]

Ha, yeah, I know about making sacrafices for my fuzzies, had to travel by Greyhound for two and a half days when I moved across the country, just so I could afford to bring my cat- he got to take an airplane. But you can't put a price on companionship and unconditional love, and if you aren't getting a pet for the joy and companionship you'll be getting, maybe you should just spend your money on a new stereo system or bigger TV, or whatever else won't get hurt when you get tired of it and dump it.
By the way, I think sugar gliders are one of the cutest animals on the freakin' planet, but after trying to get medical care for my hamster, and finding no one to help her, I've decided not to get any more 'exotic' fuzzies unless I know I'll be able to provide for them in every way possible.




you couldnt have said it better!!!! there isnt a price on love & companionship!! i would do anything for them.


i agree, go out & buy something else besides something that is living.. get a new something plastic, or wood. something that doesnt care when you throw it in the trash!