About Clown Fish

[Fumilio]

Any Idea About Salt Water Fishes?.... Please reply me back, Me trying to learn more about it before Seting up the aquirium. :rolleyes1 :goldfish: :surfing:

[Jenfur427]

What do you want to know?????

[CavyMan]

If you're more specific we can defiantly help you.

I own a 70 gallon Reef tank and species specific salt water tank, I can try to help you on some ideas.

[Fumilio]

Ya,.. i wanna know the information and so, i had a 2 feet tank, inside i had 5 corals, an algae rock... with 1 small anemone and 1 big clown fish. By the way, actually i got 3 damselfish and a marone clownfish plus a big anemone wich is the pink tube type. :p but my big anemone was stuck by the filter so its dead now plus the 4 fishes that i just mention. but i wanna know if there any think that i can do with my Tank if theres more coral or fish or whatever. so please reply it back. :D ;) :cool: :rolleyes1

[CavyMan]

Okay sounds like you got a little situation going on there, but don't panic it's all workable. I don't know if you cycled the tank or not but here is some info on it.
First you MUST cycle your tank (The Nitrogen Cycle), if you do not know what the cycling process is about here is a link to a website that explains it.
http://faq.thekrib.com/begin-cycling.html
This is crucial for a salt water environment to flourish and for the inhabitants to live.

Okay you mentioned you added a big anemone, these are very hard creatures to keep. Anemones will keep moving around the tank until it is comfortable, which might explain how it got sucked up by the filter. They need the exact water parameters which they dwell in the wild with ph set pretty high at 8.2-8.6. Although it is possible to successfully keep an anemone I suggest waiting until your live rock fully cure and that you monitor your water constantly. Although clown fish use anemones to breed and for protection they don't necessarily need them to survive. I would add a pair of clowns rather then an anemone.

As for the 5 corals rocks you mentioned they should be fine as long as you give them enough lighting (2-3 watts per gallon) the daily chemicals such as iodine, calcium, strontium, molybdenum, and kalkwasser. Placement is also key for certain corals (the website provided below can help show what kind of coral species should be positioned in the tank). Make sure you have enough space in the tank for the corals to grow and add only reef safe fish; here is a link to website with all kind of information for most salt water and coral reef life. http://www.liveaquaria.com

Remember if you stick with the coral rocks you will be limited in fish choices. There are only a few reef safe fish such as:
Clown fish, Damsels, Tangs, Dwarf Angels (still risky), Firefish, Dottybacks, Gobies and Six and Four Lined Wrasses. You can also add cleaner shrimps, coral banded shrimps, peppermint shrimps, hermit crabs and turbo snails.
I suggest adding some hermit crabs and turbo snails for algae and waste control. Remember you must be ready to always monitor the water quality, do bi-weekly water changes and always add the essential chemicals for corals to grow and flourish. These are just suggestions and advice for a coral reef tank. There are many possibilities toward salt water setups just remember to choose what you have time and money for and the rewards are endless.

[Fumilio]

I dont have any of the Nitrogen Tank. I had a two feet tank, inside of it NOW had a 5 corals, 3 stone and 1 small black demsel and a 9cm clown fish(Fully Grown). Do you Think all the fish that you mention(which im supposed to buy) Fit in my Two Feet Tank?...Btw, how many lightning should i used for my Tank?..and also that my water now is cloudy, should i change it or the water will be bright again?.. ok, now my tank i've seen worms, Slugs, snails and some little tiny creatures,... should i just let them be or get rid of them?.. because i know that everyday i show put a bottle which there was ice inside it, and feed the corals onces a day, change the sponge of the filter. thats all i do everyday. Btw, is there i should by for the sake of the water or corals or fishes??? :rolleyes:
One of my coral is like this but in Orange:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=26&pCatId=1739

Another is this but in pink:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=22&pCatId=611

Another is like this but in Brown:

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=22&pCatId=677

Another one is like a green mushroom wotch glow, but i used a pink light bulb and i cant find a picture.
Thanks for everything please reply

[Fumilio]

I dont have any of the Nitrogen Tank. I had a two feet tank, inside of it NOW had a 5 corals, 3 stone and 1 small black demsel and a 9cm clown fish(Fully Grown). Do you Think all the fish that you mention(which im supposed to buy) Fit in my Two Feet Tank?...Btw, how many lightning should i used for my Tank?..and also that my water now is cloudy, should i change it or the water will be bright again?.. ok, now my tank i've seen worms, Slugs, snails and some little tiny creatures,... should i just let them be or get rid of them?.. because i know that everyday i show put a bottle which there was ice inside it, and feed the corals onces a day, change the sponge of the filter. thats all i do everyday. Btw, is there i should by for the sake of the water or corals or fishes??? :rolleyes:
One of my coral is like this but in Orange:

Mermaid's Fan Plant
(Udotea sp.)
Caribbean

Another is this but in pink:

Sea Pen
(Cavernularia obesa)
Indo-Pacific to Eastern Pacific

Another is like this but in Brown:

Button Polyp, Pink
(Zoanthus sp.)
South Pacific

Another one is like a green mushroom wotch glow, but i used a pink light bulb and i cant find a picture.
Thanks for everything please reply :) :p ;) :o :rolleyes: :D :cool:

[Jenfur427]

I have to ask, what kind of lighting do you have? How many watts per gallon? How long has your tank been set up? Keeping an anemone in a tank that isn't well establised and with good lighting isn't a good idea. It'll just keep moving around since it's not happy. Cavyman gave you some really good information. What size tank do you have Cavyman? Do you have any pics?

[Jenfur427]

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Jenfur427/Picture_12456771.jpg

This is my 55 gallon, we are setting up a 25 gallon too. We have PC lighting, 260 watts. We have frogspawn, sun corals, finger leather, green striped mushrooms, a gorgonian, yellow polyps, green star polyps, long tentacle anemone and feather dusters. Fish wise we have a tomato clown, a clarkii (both added at the same time) a bicolor angel, coral beauty, two green chromis, and two scooter blennies. Plus a whole bunch of turbo snails and hermit crabs.

[CavyMan]

Nice tank there Jenfur427, I currently have a 65 gallon hex setup and a 70 gallon show tank cycling right now. I was thinking of transfering my 65 gallon reef into the 70 but I thought about it and why not have two coral reef setups. I don't have pictures with me here at work but I will post my tank pictures later today.

[CavyMan]

You mentioned "I dont have any of the Nitrogen Tank" it is not a tank or any object. The Nitrogen cycle is a process which you need to run your tank for at least 2 months for all the benefical bacteria can cultivate and grow to feed off ammonia and nitrate, the stuff that is posionious for all your tank inhabitants. If it's a 2 foot tank (24 inches long) and depending on how tall and wide the tank is i'm assuming not over 40 gallons. In that case I would not add more than 3 fish and make sure your corals have enough room to grow and hunt (corals send out tentacles at night, if certain corals are close together they can sting each other with their tentacles).

As for lighting, you need to find out how much gallons your tank is and then do the math, I would go with 3 gallons per watts, meaing if you have a 40 gallon tank you need 120 watts of lighting, I would use a power compact setup using fluorescent lighting with 3 bulbs each at 40 watts(40 x 3 = 120). If you have SPS corals or hard corals you need 5 watts per gallon and then I would just use a metal halide, which one bulb can output 150 watts (way more expensive). Always keep in mind that the farther the light is from the coral, the less light will reach the coral. So you may want to put corals needing more light toward the top of your tank.

Your tank is cloudy due to insignificant filtration and the lack of a protien skimmer. Do you have a protien skimmer, you mentioned you only clean the sponge? You need a high efficent filter that pumps the tank at least 9 times per hour. You also need a protien skimmer because corals give off proteins and lots of wastes, the protein skimmer with rid all of the corals wastes, this is KEY in a coral reef setup.

Those little creatures you mentioned came from the live rock which the corals are attached too, some of them are harmless while maybe two or three can do some damage. The biggest concern is looking for mantis shrimps and anemone polpys. Others you can leave alone.

The best you can do is make sure you feed you corals with the chemicals I mentioned earlier in this post and to ALWAYS do water changes, about every 2 weeks and NO not a 50% water change but only a 15%-25% change. Also don't clean off your sponge that is where the benefical bacteria lives, the Nitrogen cycle I was talking about, that's why it's crucial to cycle the tank and have the benefical bacteria grow.

I don't want to grill you because it sounds as if you ventured into salt water setups quickly and you have no idea what to do. What's good is that you came here for advice. You should buy a book and do lots of research, a coral reef is the most advance setup to have in the hobby. There are endless problems that can arise. Please read a book and learn about how the salt water world works. Hobbyists are getting angry over people rushing into corals reef setups then having everything die out. These corals and most of the fish come from the wild, if we keep taking them and killing them there won't be any left, I only buy tank breed and raised fish and I try to to do frag trades with corals and just let them bud out on there own.

[CavyMan]

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[CavyMan]

http://members.cox.net/b_hawk/DSC00830.JPG
This is my first 30 gallon setup.

http://members.cox.net/b_hawk/DSC00965.jpg


http://members.cox.net/b_hawk/DSC01128.JPG
This is my current 65 gallon hex setup.