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Misscreant
08-05-04, 12:08 PM 08-05-04
My mom is allergic to rodents. I was considering getting a sugar glider. I read that sugar gliders were marsupials, but are they also rodents? Will my mom react from them? How much do they cost all together?

sugarmama
08-05-04, 02:36 PM 08-05-04
no gliders are not rodents and they make wonderful pets for people who are allergic to cats and dogs because they do not give off any dander...im not sure if your mom would be a allergic to a glider although

Misscreant
08-06-04, 09:25 AM 08-06-04
Thanks, but how much does them and all thier crap cost?

sugarmama
08-06-04, 12:52 PM 08-06-04
well gliders can range from being 150$-250$ but it all depends on which breeder you get it from....they need a cage,food dishes, toys, pouches, a wheel, and they need a lot of time and love..gliders are big comitments and you should study and research to know before if you are really someone who can give there glider(s) the attention it needs...it is also good to get two if you will be away often...

yigos flower
08-08-04, 01:03 PM 08-08-04
DO THE REASEARCH!!!!


REALIZE HOW LONG THEY LIVE!!!


this is not just a cool kinda pet to have for a few weeks! they live a long live in captivity..
please dont get one, & have it posted right back up here.



i would say your mom will be fine with it, but i wouldnt have her hold them or anything. good luck in your search for a new pet! they truely are a good animal if you know how to care for them & actaully buy a tame one & keep it that way! =]

Misscreant
08-09-04, 06:16 AM 08-09-04
Why do you guys atomatically think I havent done any reasearch and am just some dumbass that wouldn't take care and consideration in deciding on getting a sugar glider. You people can rest assured if I do choose to get sugar glider it will be in good hands. All I wanted was an estimate on everything they needed to start with and maybe some good deals you might have seen on the internet. ;)

LeahPrincess
08-09-04, 12:15 PM 08-09-04
Well....prices for a glider can range from...100-250 in some cases....but you should really keep them in pairs..... Many sell pairs of Gliders for 250+.....usually not including cage/accesories....

sugarmama
08-09-04, 12:45 PM 08-09-04
sorry to sound rude but u do sound as if you have never reall researched and r serious esp. from this phrase Thanks, but how much does them and all thier crap cost? im sry but we do need to make sure that new owners will care for there creatures so please think twice before you get one!

SugarBaby
08-09-04, 04:55 PM 08-09-04
All of their crap??? :\

Misscreant
08-09-04, 11:08 PM 08-09-04
Oh my god, sorry I said crap! :rolleyes:

teejay
08-15-04, 03:38 PM 08-15-04
It's not only that you said crap...you can't go into getting a glider with an attitude like that.

Also, if you had done the research, you would already know the rough costings for a sugar glider. Obviously, you didn't research if you were asking that.

Secondly, I personally don't think you should be an owner of a glider. They are cute. Yes. They are sweet. Yes. But they are not a child's pet for a week or so and getting one means going through a personality test you'd surely fail with this talk of the cage and supplies being crap.

They are like permanent toddlers. If you don't think you're ready for children, you really should reconsider getting one of these.

Guinea Pigs are easier to tend to and even more tameable. I suggest you look into them.

Remember this, before anything else... RESEARCH!

Misscreant
08-15-04, 06:05 PM 08-15-04
Oh, you just unleashed my wrath. Ok, I am 17, I swear like a sailor, so sue me. That doesn’t make me an irresponsible person. You are very ignorant if you judge a person on one word. I did do a lot of research and am currently making preparations for a new home for my future gliders. I asked here about the cost when I was considering different pets, so I could pick one that fit my budget. I don’t think I really NEED to explain myself to you, but I must say you are judging a lot about me by my just saying “crap.” Trust me I’ve done the research. I’m on the computer all the time researching them just waiting for the day I can take my little sugs home. I even spent all day making pouches, hammocks, and tube thingies for them to save money to spend on a bigger cage.

QUIT BEING AN IGNORANT, JUDGMENTAL PRICK!


(PS-I wanted to apologize to every one else reading this, but this guy just needs to get a clue.) :D

teejay
08-16-04, 01:54 PM 08-16-04
Mam,

You're the one who needs to get a clue.

You wonder why all these people attacked you?

You wonder why I attacked the hardest?

Think about this, hun.

You're seventeen. You're not even done with high school. If you want to bond with them, you carry them during daytime.

Nighttime is their playtime.

I'm nineteen years old and I went off on you because of your attitude and now I have a new problem with you.

You don't know anything about gliders other than what they need when it comes to money.

Don't be ignorant. Money means nothing and nor do toys to a glider if they don't have someone to bond to.

You don't seems like the girl who would stay home all day and carry around a glider throughout your house. You seem like the kind of girl who wants a cool, exotic pet to impress her friends.

This is not viewing specimen, it's a partner to grow with.

You said you've been getting prices on all other pets right to see which one fits your budget? Then how come you've spent "all your time" on the computer researching just sugar gliders?

Do not lie to me, I am majoring in Psychology and I can look through you as easily as any other irresponsible individual.

I am telling you this because I am a teen who waited until I was out of school to get a glider.

If you don't have the patience to wait for a glider, you don't have the patience to be a good owner.

If you find anyone who is willing to give you gliders, then you flat out lied to them.

Misscreant
08-16-04, 02:29 PM 08-16-04
Wow, you must be failing psychology. The internet can be very misleading. One thing can be said and it taken another way. I am a very responsible person. You don’t know me. You have no idea what my life is like. You have no idea what I researched. You are assuming, and I must say you are assuming a lot on a few words. Just because you study psychology doesn’t mean you’re psychic and all high and mighty. The other people didn’t “attack” me they gave me advice in a nice way and I gladly accepted it. I understand that saying “crap” on the internet may give other people the wrong impression of me. You also said: “You don't know anything about gliders other than what they need when it comes to money.” How the hell do you think you know that? I have researched all aspects of sugar gliders, not just their supplies. I will be there for them to bond to. I have a lot of time on my hands. I already planned to “bond” with them in the morning before school and after school. I’m sure they can manage sleeping for 6 hours a day without me. Oh god, impressing my friends is the last thing I’d do. They don’t need to be impressed with me. I’m not some conformist who need everyone’s attention to be liked. That’s another one of your assumptions. I am quite the opposite. I just want a new pet to love, care for, and give a new home. I have researched quite a few other possible pets, but I found sugar gliders to be the one for me and don’t you doubt it. Just trust me that I will give my future gliders a good home. Oh, you go to school and are majoring in psychology? I thought you just said that because I was in school I shouldn’t get any gliders, but maybe I misinterpreted you. God, I can’t believe you think I am SO irresponsible. I actually have been told I am a very responsible person. Again you are judging me on nothing. You are totally assuming everything about me and are very wrong. You should really consider a different major. You’re really bad at reading and dealing with people.

A few tips:
#1 Don’t attack people. Give them advice and tell them about things in a nice way.
#2 Don’t assume things. It’s the worst thing you could do. Remember, “Assume makes an Ass out of U and Me”
#3 Don’t judge. Don’t just automatically not like someone because of a few things they said. Get to know the person and then make your analysis.
#4 Don’t be ignorant. Be open minded.

I hope this helps you. I’ve seen a few therapists and psychologists and none that were good have acted the way you have. If you want your career to go down the toilet keep up your wonderful ways.

teejay
08-17-04, 12:19 PM 08-17-04
This isn't one of your slipknot songs, kid.

I am not hear to listen to a little girl say the term "conform".

I'm nineteen years old and I've grown up that much in two years.

Ever hear of PCDI? Yeah, it's called online courses. I've been taking them since my senior year. So perhaps, you should stop assuming.

Of course I assumed, that's the key in psychology and sorry, hun...I never thought you were a valley girl. I knew right from the start you had the tendency to feel you had to revolt against the simple things in life. Grow up.

Your mother will tend to them? They will bond to your mother and not you and I know you're not gonna have two hours before school where you get sufficient scent from you to them. Sorry. You're running head first into a wall. I just hope it doesn't hurt.

Also, psychology is not something to help me in my future goal, I am also studying to get a Bachelor's in Arts so I can be the Visual Designer for Google in Mountain View, CA. And yes, my Sugar Glider is welcomed there to come with me.

Do not hold yourself higher than me, kid. You assumed just as much as I did except I assumed in the right direction.

Misscreant
08-17-04, 07:43 PM 08-17-04
Ok, I don’t like slipknot. I know what conforming is and I am not. You are assuming I am stupid. Just because you’re nineteen doesn’t make you any better than me. I think it is very childish for you to parade around your age like you are so much wiser. I have friends in their twenties and they treat me like their equals.

Oh, you go to school and are majoring in psychology? I thought you just said that because I was in school I shouldn’t get any gliders, but maybe I misinterpreted you.

Yeah I said, “…but maybe I misinterpreted you…” and what I meant by that is I could be wrong, but that’s what I got from your post. I assumed nothing. Assumption is the key in psychology? Pffft. I find it hard to believe that the “key” in psychology is assuming things about people and then attacking them when you have nothing to base your assumptions on. I don’t feel I have to “revolt against the simple things in life.” Wow, how many stupid, incorrect assumptions have you made now? I’ve lost count. My mother will help out. I doubt with all the time I will be spending with them that they will bond to her instead of me. Oh, you know I wont have two hours before school to spend sufficient time with them, huh? Actually during the school year I get up quite early and about two hours early at that. You’re just not getting ANYTHING right, are you. I am glad you have something to fall back on because you’d fall flat on your ass if you tried to pull your way through psychology. I’m going into web design. I’m starting college a year early too. Ok I don’t hold myself higher than you. You are my equal, just a really whiney one. I assumed nothing and every thing you’ve said so far has been wrong.

teejay
08-18-04, 02:30 AM 08-18-04
Mam,

Do not make like you've never assumed.

You're assuming that I think you're stupid. I don't think that little of you. Okay?

I say I'm nineteen because most of these people are in their thirties at the least, and I want you to know I am not far from your age. I am not parading my age like it's a good thing.

I am just letting you know, I am a teen sugar glider enthusiast, just like you.

I just want you to make sure that you know you're ready for these things. I took the plunge to take care of a sugar glider at this age and she is four months out of pouch. She is great and I love her but seeing the time she wants to spend with me, I don't know how I would've handled it in school.

Please understand I have not been trying to attack, just be more straight-forward than all the others here.

Sugar gliders are not pets. They are slave owners. I am dead serious. They will own you the second you hold them. They will make you tend to their every need when you know they are very able to tend to those needs, themselves.

I think you got the wrong idea from all of this and I am not backing out of what I said and this is this isn't an attempt to keep my pride intact.

It's not just you who goes into these kind of things full of commitment but get sour of it after they see how spoiled the glider is and take it for granted.

I am noticing your situation will probably be much different from mine as I went against all advice and only got one glider. Yes, I guess that makes things much harder as they are very social and playful and well, Ickerus can only be playful with me.

I will not apologize for my words, but I will apologize for the way they've come out.

If you keep this enthusiasm up that you posted in your other thread, then you'll make a great mommy. Don't be pissed off anymore as I have seen where my words have turned childish but don't think your words were anymore mature.

I am not being the bigger man, I'm trying to better say what I've been trying to say all along.

You'll do fine. Just don't lose hope with them, patience is the key. Remember that.

Misscreant
08-19-04, 09:11 AM 08-19-04
Ok, then its dropped, but a few more things.

You said, “I say I'm nineteen because most of these people are in their thirties at the least, and I want you to know I am not far from your age. I am not parading my age like it's a good thing. I am just letting you know, I am a teen sugar glider enthusiast, just like you.”

You also said, “I am not hear to listen to a little girl say the term "conform". I'm nineteen years old and I've grown up that much in two years.”


You said, “Please understand I have not been trying to attack, just be more straight-forward than all the others here.”

You also said, “You wonder why I attacked the hardest?”

I’m sure you understand what I am getting at, but I wont go into it any farther. I really don’t want to waste my time with this little argument any longer. Thank you for the advice and I hope we can be ok with each other now. :)

Jennie
08-20-04, 09:34 AM 08-20-04
1 more thing off topic, no you can't take your suggies to Ca, they are illegal there.

Now back to the orginal topic. Again gliders can go from $100-200 is usually what a normal gray costs. Now color variations can cost any where from $250 to $1500.
Cages are not so bad, some times you can get a really good deal. Lke I just got 3 really nice sized cages for $140. But to get a nice one from a pet store I would expect to spend some where from $50-75.
Food is also fairly inexpensive. It depends on what you feed them. I give mine BML and it maybe costs me $40 bucks a month. And I make sure to buy it in bulk. The most expensive ingrediant in there is the honey.
Now you will have to take them to the vet for checkups and if they ever get sick. And vet trips can be expensive. Many people on here and other boards have a special vet bank account that they put their money in and never let it go lower then a certian amount. Last time I took mine to a vet it was $100 for a wellness check for 2 of them.
And then you have to get toys and pouches and water bottles and food bowls. But these are all one time costs along with the cage, well unless you are me and have to buy each cage a toy when I go to the pet store. But I would have to say again this is going to cost you somewhere from $100-150. That all depends on how much your pouches are costing and how nice of quality you want to get.

Misscreant
08-20-04, 09:41 AM 08-20-04
I found a really nice cage I want for i think $130 and another one for $40. I'm planning on making everything else for them except the water bottle and the exercise wheel. I already made a pouch, hammock, and tube which I posted in the "Am I ready for Sugar Gliders?" thread.

Jennie
08-20-04, 09:58 AM 08-20-04
I just saw that. They look good. What are they made out of?

Misscreant
08-20-04, 10:01 AM 08-20-04
Ummm....some old cloth I found in my basement. I have no idea what it specifically is though.