kitten wanted!!!

[kittiee]

hi, im looking for a baby kitten. all black or grey with black stripes.
I live in south new jersey.

email address: enchantedswan@aol.com
thanks

[KTS CAVIES]

www.petfinder.com

[kittiee]

www.petfinder.com
why should i get a kitten outside of a shelter. Why is animals at the shelters so hard to get. Im not going to pay 100 or more for a kitten. Go through meetings after meetings and so on,then have them in my life checking up on me throught the kittens life. Sorry i want peace with my kitten. I want my kitten to come into my home with full happyness, so i can spoil and live with my family like a new born child would. I dont wish to have a cat that was abandon or abused, so i would have to have years and years of working out the problems of the previous owner. Its not that I dont feel sorry for the cats and dogs in the shelter, believe me i looked at the shelters and there rules and fees. Its just not for me. I like to have a kitten that is from a litter of one family, who knows the history who knows the behavior. A cat that would be fully happy and jump right into being with the family. not one thats going to run under a bed or freak because of abuse from someone.
i know the fees of getting the cat fixed and the shots it will need. That is a good amount of money its self. So dont ask me a question why buy or get one instead of a shelter. I choose to have a kat from the previous owner with a happy attitude.

[KTS CAVIES]

Not all animals in shelters have been abused. They don't all come with "baggage". Most of them are there because of irresponsible owners not altering their animals. Kittens are dumped off because after they are born no one wants them. Some stray cats are brought in pregnant.

City pounds charge $5- $60 for cats/kittens. Cats and kittens from rescues, where they are fostered and live the life of a normal cat are usually a bit more. $100 for a cat that is fully vaccinated, wormed, altered, tested for diseases, on flea, tick and heartworm preventative is a great price to pay. You won't be able to get a "free" cat altered, vaccinated etc. for $100.00

Rescues and shelters want to make sure that the animals are going to FOREVER homes. That is why you need to fill out an application, that is why *some* not even close to most, do home checks. After you get your cat, they do not call every day for the rest of it's life, most don't do follow ups after the first. You should be HAPPY to know that your cat is cared for so much that people would do this.

If you don't want to go through all this, then go down to your local pound or humane society, all you have to do is sign a paper and hand over the money.

Again, please visit www.petfinder.com and please do not support BYB's. Please do not say things about shelters or rescues if you do not know anything about them, which you don't.
Here are some kittens in your area rescue/shelters, they really look like they have problems :rolleyes:
http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/NJ357/NJ357.3264610-1-x.jpg

http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/NJ264/NJ264.2865754-1-x.jpg

http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/NJ264/NJ264.3378537-1-x.jpg

http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/NJ28/NJ28.3004188-1-x.jpg

http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/NJ246/NJ246.3812476-1-x.jpg

http://www.petfinder.com/fotos/NJ62/NJ62.941974-1-x.jpg

[Babyblue]

That's definitely a very limited view on rescues and shelters and I suggest before you put them down and go to a backyard breeder (which is what you're describnig, "private home with a litter") do more research.

I have 4 cats and they all come from different sources, all rescues. 2 of them we adopted from a lady who runs a small private rescue out of her home. She had taken in a pregnant stray mother as well as a litter of abandoned kittens. We paid $40 for 2 cats, but they did not come with any shots, testings, or fixed and we had to pay for that ourselves. 3rd cat came from the Petfinder. Petfinder does not only have listings from shelters but they also have listings by individuals who are looking to rehome their pets. I've adopted a beautiful purebred Ragdoll kitten from a lady who's son was allergic to him. I paid $200 for him, who came with deworming and first set of shots only. Then our latest cat came from the local animal control. We got him as a 2 year old, we do not know anything about his background, and yes he does have some minor issues. That does not stop us from loving him with all our hearts, and he can be the sweetest cat ever when he's in the mood. We paid $25 for this guy, who was UTD on his shots, fixed, and came with a free vet visit.

Animal control also had plenty of very young and friendly kittens, as I'm sure most shelters do too. They're no different than the kittens from a "private home" when you're talking about backyard breeders. While you may have the peace of mind knowing that they were raised in a home environment during their first few weeks of their lives, because these people have no knowledge of genetics or history of their cats, you still know next to nothing about the make ups of these kittens.

[winter]

http://www.petshub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25699

[kittiee]

first i wanted people who found a kitten that needs a home instead of going to a shelter. I dont need people telling me where to get one. I know of petfinder i have looked at every shelters adoption policy near me. I also looked at petfinder classifeds and am waiting for someone near me with a young kitten. I seen people on here finding kittens and are looking for homes for them, so i decided to put up a add, but i quess you ruined that chance because i keep getting judgemental people telling me what to do. So if people who are judgemental on here i can imagine what they do to the animals. If you cant understand that there is different ways of getting an animal, or if you think there is only the shelter. There is a method for everyone. Just like there is different churches out there. there is different ways. If god wanted me to get a kitten from the shelter i would of went there. There is a kitten out there that needs me and god will show me to that kitten. You should be happy im not a person that goes to A PET STORE AND GETTING THEM. AT LEAST IM NOT GOING AROUND TO A BROKER. I WAS LOOKING FOR A ANIMAL THAT WAS FOUND ON THE STREET OR MABEY A GARBAGE CAN, you know one that needs a home because THEY DONT HAVE A ROOF OVER THERE HEADS.

now to say i dont know what im talking about, go READ SOME OF THE ADOPTION POLICIYS and first i seen some of the shelters near me, horrible. hey it might be something for an animal to live in, or the people might be okay but for ME, i dont want to even go there. THE CATS ARE IN A CAGE WITH 20 OTHER CATS OR SO, THE WORKERS GO HOME AFTER THERE JOBS LEAVING THE CATS ALONE. the cats dont have full on contact 24 hours a day like a breeder does, or someone who find the cat. you cant tell me that you have hundreds of animals and everyone is played with for hours. HELLO MY SISTER IN LAW WORKED AT A SHELTER.... im not putting a shelter down, I THANK THE PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, I THANK THAT THERE IS PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO SAVE THESE ANIMALS. BUT IM THE ONE TAKING THEM HOME AND RAISING THEM FOREVER. so its my choice where i want to get them from. I dont want to have an animal thats been in the shelter with little contact or thats in a cage. These are my feelings, but god has a plan on what kitten needs me and if it was the shelter my feelings on this wouldnt stop me. besides i dont buy an animal from killers. buying an animal from a breeder or buying from a shelter im still buyin. just from a breeder its only one owner.
i have helped many people find animals, leading them to petfinder classifeds. I have been asked by people on the computer to help them look for an animal and i have done so. Now i am looking for a kitten for myself to love once again, i had a cat that was from a regular person and cat from the streets and they were the best cats in the world. May they rest in peace>>>>> When i was a teenager I took in cats feed them got them healthy and gave them to people who had great jobs houses and so on. I also help people find pets to love and care for. A pet makes a happier home. I have bought puppies with my own money, just to give to a child who longed for a dog. Mindless its family and friends who i bought for, but i did it and they have became there own child, spoiled rotten. buying dogs for people isnt a everyday thing, heck i cant afford that much, but when i see a friends child crying cause she played with a dog and her mommy has a great job a house yard, but with her bills and caring for her kids she doesnt have the 400.00 to buy a dog up front. I know she has the money to feed and get the shots and get it fixed, so i went and bought the puppy for the child. but i quess by your remarks i was wrong for not going to a shelter. So what if i buy from a breeder at least the animal is getting a great home. So buying a animal isnt bad, isnt like the devil coming to get you. A shelter kills the animals BECAUSE IT CANT FIND A HOME, A BREEDER DOES NOT. so you tell me who is right and who is wrong. how can you kill an animal, end its life due to you need a cage.
why should i buy a animal from a shelter just to stop you from killin it. a breeder keeps the animal until its sold.

and another thing i have children, so im not bring an issued cat into the home to go nuts on my kids. Does a shelter know the history of the kittens? No, neither does a person who finds them but they do know more about them due to spending one on one contact, because there THE ONLY OWNER........ A SHELTER HAS DIFFERENT PEOPLE TOUCHING THE ANIMALS THROUGH OUT THE WEEKS......
so dont judge me because i want something different than what your giving.


That's definitely a very limited view on rescues and shelters and I suggest before you put them down and go to a backyard breeder (which is what you're describnig, "private home with a litter") do more research.

I have 4 cats and they all come from different sources, all rescues. 2 of them we adopted from a lady who runs a small private rescue out of her home. She had taken in a pregnant stray mother as well as a litter of abandoned kittens. We paid $40 for 2 cats, but they did not come with any shots, testings, or fixed and we had to pay for that ourselves. 3rd cat came from the Petfinder. Petfinder does not only have listings from shelters but they also have listings by individuals who are looking to rehome their pets. I've adopted a beautiful purebred Ragdoll kitten from a lady who's son was allergic to him. I paid $200 for him, who came with deworming and first set of shots only. Then our latest cat came from the local animal control. We got him as a 2 year old, we do not know anything about his background, and yes he does have some minor issues. That does not stop us from loving him with all our hearts, and he can be the sweetest cat ever when he's in the mood. We paid $25 for this guy, who was UTD on his shots, fixed, and came with a free vet visit.

Animal control also had plenty of very young and friendly kittens, as I'm sure most shelters do too. They're no different than the kittens from a "private home" when you're talking about backyard breeders. While you may have the peace of mind knowing that they were raised in a home environment during their first few weeks of their lives, because these people have no knowledge of genetics or history of their cats, you still know next to nothing about the make ups of these kittens.

[Soleil]

Whoa Kititee- slow down, girl!! You're getting way too defensive, way too fast! KTS was answering you question about where to find a kitten that needs a home. The 'Why buy, when aniamls die' line is simply her signature that appears at the end of every post she writes- automatically! Just like mine do- which you will notice at the bottom of this post.
As for petfinder- it is not just shelter cats that are listed there, but there is a 'classifieds' section where people can post animals that they have found abandoned, or they had not spayed thier cat and she had kittens. Some were adopted, but must leave the home because of allergies.
Now, regarding your attitude towards 'shelter' kittens. These are KITTENS we are talking abou. You might have an argument if this was a grown cat, but even abandoned kittens get socialization. And as someone who works in a shelter, we do not adopt out a kitten or a cat that may have a behaviour problem (that cannot be worked with). Some of the BEST cats that I have ever met, had started thier life as ferals. It usually takes about a week in the shelter enviornment for a feral KITTEN to come around. Why? Because it is structured, it is clean, and food and water are ALWAYS available.
As for the 'long and involved' adoption applications. These are needed in order to ascertain an applicants suitability for an animal (be it a dog, or a cat) Shelters are not there for the 'business' of selling animals. They are there for the animals- and if you are unanle/unwilling to spend some extra time answering some questions or filling out some forms in order to get this animal, then I think you've proven your 'suitability' right there. And if you get turned down by a shelter (and it happens to the best of people) there is usually a good reason- but a reason that can usually be fixed through education.
As for the cost? Factor in the spay or neuter, tests and vaacinations that had been performed and you can quickly see how $100 is not alot. Then add in the extras that alot of shelters add (microchipping, tatooing, free vet check, collar, ID tag, harness/leash, toys)
I personally don't care if you adopt from a shelter or not. What I do care about is the unprovoked attack on other Petshub members that were simply trying to help you in your quest to find an animal. And than to attack shelters in general and the people that work there. (despite your comment about loving the workers, yada yada yada) No we cannot spend 24/7 with each animal, but truly- who does? Do you spend EVERY WAKING MOMENT with your family? I don't. And about workers leaving thier jobs at the end of the day? What a crock! I wish I could, sometimes. But I have had sick animals, injured animals, and stressed animals over night, at my house, after work. I have returned to the shelter and worked with 'problem' dogs or to check up on the cat that was ill that day. I have picked animals up on my days off, spent my holidays volunteering, used my home phone for calls so that we didn't break the phone budget again trying to rehome pets. And I KNOW that this is how most shelters work. This is not a choice that I make- this is something that has to be done to ensure the mental and physical health of the animals. So, next time you make claims to support something- back it up with your words and actions instead of trying to tear it down.
Good luck on your search

S.

[kittiee]

i like to know what shelter you work at. the ones near me are a long building that looks run down from the outside. You can only get a hold of them for a couple hours. They would take any animal with no questions asked.

So sorry, if i seen a nice shelter near me mabey i wouldnt be so defensive. I been looking on pet classifieds, none in my area thats young.
So im still looking, and to answer the question do i spend every moment with my family.
Yes i do, I also spent every moment with my cats before they died. The longest they have ever been away from me is an hour when i go food shopping, thats if i go in the day. most of the time i wait until my husband is home and ill go to a 24 hour shoprite. A cat or dog to me isnt just a pet you keep in the house just to enjoy. THere family, they get spoiled, toys for christmas, toys every week, eat when i eat, sleep in a nice bed, and so on. Call me crazy i dont care a animal is post to have the best in this world just like a human. So i do think that a kitten i get should be handled and very well socalized. how can i get a cat thats in a cage, how can u put a cat in a cage. do you sleep in a cage?

[KTS CAVIES]

What you are describing would be a pound or city shelter. There is absolutely no reason why you can not adopt from them. Your "socialization" reason has been proven weak. You can get kittens as young as 6 weeks in shelters that are very socialized. You can get adult or young cats from shelters that are very socialized. Go to your local shelter. Interact with some of the cats and kittens. Most of them come from those "perfect" homes that you are describing. Many are brought in because of allergies, moving, new baby, or someone died.

If you go to a "private home" you are supporting BYB's who throw their "left overs" in shelters every day.

If you go to an in home RESCUE, such as one of the many on petfinder, you get a litter trained, socialized, spoiled rotten kitten, that has been neutered, vaccinated and so on.

Any cat, no matter where you get it will hide around for the first few days/weeks until they adjust to their new environment and surroundings.

You cannot possibly spend every waking moment with your cats or family. If you do, I feel sorry for you.

I keep my cats in cages when they first come to my home and when I can't supervise them. It's for their safety. My dogs go in cages everytime they can't be supervised too. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Shelters keep cats in cages because not all cats get along, It's easy, some are being treated for medical reasons, some are pregnant, it's for THEIR safety.

One shelter near me does NOT keep cats in cages. They are all thrown into a room with one another. They currently have about 300 cats in a 100x50 room. It smells HORRIBLE, their is hair EVERYWHERE, cats FIGHT, animals get HURT. However they are socialized.

The other shelter keeps cats in cages. It smells and looks clean. Cats are socialized.

[Soleil]

i like to know what shelter you work at. the ones near me are a long building that looks run down from the outside.
I would much rather work at or adopt from a shelter that spends it's money on the animals than on landscaping, paint and general frou-frou.

You can only get a hold of them for a couple hours.
That's because they must spend a part of the day doing extensive cleaning, medical checks, morning feeding, laundry, etc.. Hard to do this when you are dealing with the public- so you do it when you're closed.

They would take any animal with no questions asked.
Generally, most SPCA's will take any animal at any time. Why? Because if they didn't where would the animal end up? You sure wouldn't take it- not with it's questionable past, loads of 'baggage', and psychological problems. And if you want to know where a cat has come from- ask the staff...

So sorry, if i seen a nice shelter near me mabey i wouldnt be so defensive. I been looking on pet classifieds, none in my area thats young.
Not only is this passive aggressive- but shallow. I have so much that I want to say- but am floundering in the shallowness of you remarks...

So im still looking, and to answer the question do i spend every moment with my family.
Yes i do, I also spent every moment with my cats before they died.
How do you get everything done while you are packin' around kids AND a cat AND a husband. My point was that we are NEVER interacting with our animals (or our family) 24/, it would be to exhausting- and yet this is what you seem to want the shelters to be doing. Even service dogs are sometimes not in the bathrooms with thier owners, sometimes they get left at home as well. You sometimes go shopping. Your husband goes to work. Your kids may go to school. You might go to church.

So i do think that a kitten i get should be handled and very well socalized. how can i get a cat thats in a cage, how can u put a cat in a cage. do you sleep in a cage?

They are handled- they are socialized. Now you're just being silly.
Once again- I don't care where you get your kitten. I don't think that you should get a kitten from a humane society or shelter. Why? I think they deserve more. But please don't degrade any shelter unless you are willing to go in there and volunteer for a few weeks- then you can judge that peticular shelter all you want.

S.

[kittiee]

[QUOTE=KTS CAVIES]What you are describing would be a pound or city shelter.

there is only one city shelters near me.

There is absolutely no reason why you can not adopt from them.
Go to your local shelter. Interact with some of the cats and kittens.

I've seen the kittens and cats at the shelter.
NO thank you,

They are all thrown into a room with one another. They currently have about 300 cats in a 100x50 room. It smells HORRIBLE, their is hair EVERYWHERE, cats FIGHT, animals get HURT.

this is the reason im not getting it at a shelter NEAR ME.........

You cannot possibly spend every waking moment with your cats or family. If you do, I feel sorry for you.

i didnt have kids nor animals not to spend my evey waking moment with them.
Im a stay home mother so yes i take care of them all the time. I didnt have them to pass off on someone else or just let them be. If im not there, to go to church or shopping my HUSBAND ISSSS..... if we go out together its not for long, and is very rare. YES He goes to work, but im still at home. IF WE GO OUT WITHOUT OUR KIDS(highly rare) there is a babysitter, a babysitter that even babysits the animals. WHICH IS HIS MOTHER. who loves animals herself. My point is, my kids nor my animals is ever left alone more than an hour. THe shelters animals are left alone for the night. AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IM ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE SHELTERS NEAR ME....... how would i know about the shelters you work for, or shelters in another state. IF I REMEMBER ON MY SEARCH FOR ANIMALS I FOUND A SHELTER WHO TRAVELS ANIMALS TO DIFFERENT STATES.
I ONLY KNOW WHAT I KNOW FROM THE SHELTERS I WALKED INTO AND SEEN.

I keep my cats in cages when they first come to my home and when I can't supervise them. It's for their safety. My dogs go in cages everytime they can't be supervised too. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with it.

I didnt say theres nothing wrong with cages. Put i see the shelter cats and i see the pet store cats, to me its the same.
Yeah you might have a great shelter, works well keeps the cats wonderful healthy and spoiled. But the shelter i seen near me, no way.

if i seen a shelter that looked warm and cozy that didnt smell and look like the people cared for them, then i wouldnt hesatated to adopt. But i seen a shelter who keeps there dogs in a cage outside and had a little tiny place for the cats. doesnt even look like they should of animals there. I seen another shelter that like i said looked cold was taped up with paper on the windows. One long run down building crackes old wood, I think a dog house would of been better for them. dogs whinning and barking. The two old sruffy workers who didnt look like they even had a heart to care for. A house that seem brand new that looked like they lived there but the animals building looked like it was there for 20 years without any work done to keep it up to date.
Like i said before, IF I HAD A SHELTER AROUND ME THAT WAS GREAT SURE.
lindenwold shelter I think its called that, is really great, a up to date building, big and gated up. but they are not near me nor do they have any kittens that i see on petfinder. They even have an add all the time in courier post. I think that is the greatest shelter alive.
My opions are due to what i seen at the other shelters. and buy what my sister in law has seen while working at a shelter.

so you can say whatever you need to say,
i was looking for an abandoned animal, hopefully someone in new jersey would catch one and need a home for it. Gloucester city has millions of cats thats dropped off by any person just because they dont want it mabey i should just go take an 2 hour drive and help them out.

i didnt even think to buy from a breeder, and i thought this was a website for kittens who were found and need a home. If i wanted a breeder to sell me a cat i would of went to a breeders website or the cherry hill mall.

[kittiee]

[QUOTE=KTS CAVIES]What you are describing would be a pound or city shelter.

there is only one city shelters near me.

There is absolutely no reason why you can not adopt from them.
Go to your local shelter. Interact with some of the cats and kittens.

I've seen the kittens and cats at the shelter.
NO thank you,

They are all thrown into a room with one another. They currently have about 300 cats in a 100x50 room. It smells HORRIBLE, their is hair EVERYWHERE, cats FIGHT, animals get HURT.

this is the reason im not getting it at a shelter NEAR ME.........

You cannot possibly spend every waking moment with your cats or family. If you do, I feel sorry for you.

i didnt have kids nor animals not to spend my evey waking moment with them.
Im a stay home mother so yes i take care of them all the time. I didnt have them to pass off on someone else or just let them be. If im not there, to go to church or shopping my HUSBAND ISSSS..... if we go out together its not for long, and is very rare. YES He goes to work, but im still at home. IF WE GO OUT WITHOUT OUR KIDS(highly rare) there is a babysitter, a babysitter that even babysits the animals. WHICH IS HIS MOTHER. who loves animals herself. My point is, my kids nor my animals is ever left alone more than an hour. THe shelters animals are left alone for the night. AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IM ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE SHELTERS NEAR ME....... how would i know about the shelters you work for, or shelters in another state. IF I REMEMBER ON MY SEARCH FOR ANIMALS I FOUND A SHELTER WHO TRAVELS ANIMALS TO DIFFERENT STATES.
I ONLY KNOW WHAT I KNOW FROM THE SHELTERS I WALKED INTO AND SEEN.

I keep my cats in cages when they first come to my home and when I can't supervise them. It's for their safety. My dogs go in cages everytime they can't be supervised too. Theres absolutely nothing wrong with it.

I didnt say theres nothing wrong with cages. Put i see the shelter cats and i see the pet store cats, to me its the same.
Yeah you might have a great shelter, works well keeps the cats wonderful healthy and spoiled. But the shelter i seen near me, no way.

if i seen a shelter that looked warm and cozy that didnt smell and look like the people cared for them, then i wouldnt hesatated to adopt. But i seen a shelter who keeps there dogs in a cage outside and had a little tiny place for the cats. doesnt even look like they should of animals there. I seen another shelter that like i said looked cold was taped up with paper on the windows. One long run down building crackes old wood, I think a dog house would of been better for them. dogs whinning and barking. The two old sruffy workers who didnt look like they even had a heart to care for. A house that seem brand new that looked like they lived there but the animals building looked like it was there for 20 years without any work done to keep it up to date.
Like i said before, IF I HAD A SHELTER AROUND ME THAT WAS GREAT SURE.
lindenwold shelter I think its called that, is really great, a up to date building, big and gated up. but they are not near me nor do they have any kittens that i see on petfinder. They even have an add all the time in courier post. I think that is the greatest shelter alive.
My opions are due to what i seen at the other shelters. and buy what my sister in law has seen while working at a shelter.

so you can say whatever you need to say,
i was looking for an abandoned animal, hopefully someone in new jersey would catch one and need a home for it. Gloucester city has millions of cats thats dropped off by any person just because they dont want it mabey i should just go take an 2 hour drive and help them out.

i didnt even think to buy from a breeder, and i thought this was a website for kittens who were found and need a home. If i wanted a breeder to sell me a cat i would of went to a breeders website or the cherry hill mall.

[Soleil]

lindenwold shelter I think its called that, is really great, a up to date building, big and gated up. but they are not near me nor do they have any kittens that i see on petfinder. If i wanted a breeder to sell me a cat i would of went to a breeders website or the cherry hill mall.

Lindenwold Animal Shelter (http://www.petfinder.org/shelters/NJ65.html)
If you were to scroll down, you would notice that they have animals at the Cherry Hill Mall, in the Petsmart there. My suggestion would be to phone the shelter and find out for sure if the animals at the Petsmart are form the shelter. And then you can also ask about kittens.
From working at a shelter, I know that it is a time consuming project to photograph and update websites with animals. So alot of our adoptable animals DON'T make it onto the web (and besides- if you are only getting your information online- it will never be complete!) because I would rather spend that extra time WITH the animal than stressing it out with a camera in its face!

S.