Babies

[shazzyswimmer]

My mate wants to have some of baby hamsters but hasn't got any hamsters and i have a male and a female syrian hamster. i am worried if they get together they will fight. can i take a sample from the male put it into the female in order for the to have babies. that way no contact is involved and she may be pregnant. Am i right? By the way i have saw the prosedure done on television. Can you tell me whether this is right seeing as you are so experienced.

P.s- i do know how to look after baby hamsters.

[yodelinghamster]

That sounds horrible!! I take it you don't know anything about breeding.... or least not very much.... Do you have good reasons to breed? What will you do with the babies? Do you know anything about genetic makeup??? Oh and if the female is in heat she will mate with the male. Since I don't take interest in breeding I can't anwser anymore questions....

[LuckyBunny888]

Go to google and find info on what your doing. How old is you female? She might even be to old to mate, which could be dangerous to her. There isnt much that you can do for the babies when there little at first, but theres ALOT of stuff you can do for the mommy b4 she has the babies. This is a very big door that you talking about here. I M me and I can talk you through any questions you have. I dont reccomend you breed though if you dont have homes for ALL of the babies. A petstore isnt a home, Its a place where your hammies can have all kinds of bad things happen to them!

[TiaMaria]

Save us all the trouble and dont breed!

[yodelinghamster]

You go tia!!! I completly agree!!!!!!!!!!

[HammysRme]

I dont think people should discourage others from breeding. It's their choice, not yours. Everyone says that you should adopt hamsters from shelters who need a home or there are already too many hamsters. But wouldnt that be just like telling som1 not to have babies, instead you should adopt them becuase the world is already over-populated? All she asked for was if there was another way of doing it. Shazzyswimmer, Try putting the female in the male's cage and if she is in heat, she'll let him mount her. But if they start fighting, just quickly take a pencil or something and separate them and try the next day. I do not know any ways of just taking a sample of the male and putting it in the female. Oh yeah, The female usually goes through heat during the evening or night.

[florathehammy]

I agree with HammysRme. If people want to breed then its up to them.

But they have to know what they are doing. As suggested, if i was you do lots of research.

It costs money and takes up alot of time to look after them.

Make sure that before you breed that you have found homes for them, or have some ideas of what you are going to do with the babies. Hamsters can have quite a few.

Remeber syrain hamster dont live together in groups, so at 3 weeks old they will need to be taken away from mum and sexed in seperate cages.

Hope ive helped.

Louise

[yodelinghamster]

But she seems to not know what she is doing, if she is on here! And hammyrme telling someone not to breed is way different than telling a human not to have a child! You wouldn't have a child and give it a away! that is what most people do when they breed hammies! If you want to give a hamster a way, get one from the shelter, foster it, then personly find it a home. I can see reason in breeding to keep all the babies and now what you are doing when you do it, but this is not the case!

[TiaMaria]

Ive talked to shazzyswimmer on my messenger, he/she has no clue even how to raise a hammie properly, and is always asking disturbing questions, things normaly people wouldnt ask, the last thing we need right now is some 'airhead' breeding, that doesnt know crap about crap, and couldnt sell crap to a crap farmer! There is no use for people who breed like that, just to say..hey im a dumb butt, i can breed hammies!

Every hammie i have bred has been genetically tested for proper genes, shazzy do u know how to do that? Do u have the money to keep all these babies and take them to the vet when they are sick and need medicine?! Do u have a fulltime job to support this breeding you wish to do? Do you know how to breed? Do you know what to look for in the perfect syrians/dwarves to breed? Do u know how to take care of the babies? how to feed them if something happened to the mom?
do u have enough cages/water bottles/food dishes?

You need to have all this and more if u even consider breeding!
So if u dont..dont do it!

[HammysRme]

i disagree... Shes on here for a simple question. It doesnt mean she doesn't know a single thing about breeding. After-all, she did mention that she knows how to take care of the young. And whats wrong with giving the young away to friends anyways?

[TiaMaria]

PFFFFFFFFFT THAT MEANS CRAP...SHE IS 12 YEARS OLD..HER PARENTS PROBABLY WONT LET HER! At age 12 she/he should be playing with barbies not hamster breeding and genetics!

[Chaos]

Ive talked to shazzyswimmer on my messenger, he/she has no clue even how to raise a hammie properly, and is always asking disturbing questions, things normaly people wouldnt ask, the last thing we need right now is some 'airhead' breeding, that doesnt know crap about crap, and couldnt sell crap to a crap farmer! There is no use for people who breed like that, just to say..hey im a dumb butt, i can breed hammies!

Every hammie i have bred has been genetically tested for proper genes, shazzy do u know how to do that? Do u have the money to keep all these babies and take them to the vet when they are sick and need medicine?! Do u have a fulltime job to support this breeding you wish to do? Do you know how to breed? Do you know what to look for in the perfect syrians/dwarves to breed? Do u know how to take care of the babies? how to feed them if something happened to the mom?
do u have enough cages/water bottles/food dishes?

You need to have all this and more if u even consider breeding!
So if u dont..dont do it!


^ I agree completely. Answer every one of those questions then decide if you are really ready to breed or if you just want "cute babies".

[HammysRme]

yeah , sry but when i said the thing about i disagree, i ment to put it b4 tia marias thing... i didnt mean i disagreed with tia

[TiaMaria]

Thanks Chaos!!! I really hate irresponsible breeders!

[LuckyBunny888]

She is young, which makes it harder for her to understand. As long as the babies are going to good homes and aren't going to end up in any pet stores, I dont think theres much of a problem with it. If the babies go to good homes and are well cared for and the hamsters are being bred mostly for temperment, I think we should help her. This forum is to post questions and I understand TiaMaria that theres alot of work put into it but if shes really serious about it, I think we should help her. What did she say to you anyways that made you think she was an "air head breeding"? I agree with you on all the responsibilites of owning the babies, trust me, ive been through that. And your right, if shes not going to be able to provied all that, then she shouldnt breed! But if shes willing to make the commitement and put all the time and work that is involved with it, I see nothing wrong with it.

Sorry I opened my big mouth, I dont want to make any enemys here, thats just how I feel on the situation.

[TiaMaria]

Its the whole fact she is 12! She cant leave genetic make-up of hamsters at that age, she wouldnt comprehend!

[LuckyBunny888]

Ok i understand, your probably right, but dont you think that your being a little to harsh on her? If you tell her stuff like this now, you'll end up scaring her and she will never become a responsible breeder. Like you said shes only 12 now, but a couple of years from now shes going look back at this. Just try and be a little nicer to her is all im asking.

[Chaos]

I started learning about genetics in dogs when I was a little older then her. I only started learning about hamster genetics a few months ago and I still have SO much to learn. If she really wanted to she can become a responsible breeder eventually, but its not now. Its hard for a child to want to bother studying genetics when all they really want is cute babies without thinking of the consequences.

[LuckyBunny888]

Trust me lol, I know that. Thats how I got most of my hammies at first, from people breeding for just cute babies. Ive only ever had 2 litters. Both black bears and when I did it, it was because both parents had great temperments,the best I had ever seen for a hammie. I was willing to assume all consequences for the babies. She had 10 each time, a big number, but because I planned ahead, all the babies went to loving homes! All the babies are still alive to this day and are all going to be 2 years old on May 5th. The other group will be 2 on Sepetember 27th. The one hamster I have now is a great example of the breed except for size, she was the runt of the litter and is one of the greatest hammies I think I have ever owned...besides her father may he rest in peace.

[yodelinghamster]

ya know I might help her if she had got on here and already done this without us warning her in this thread, for the hammies sake. But I'm not going to help her be irresponsible!! There for I would be irresponsible myself! HammyRme, what I mean't before was when you have a child you love it forever, when you breed hammies you (most of the time) give them away. There for ask someone not to breed is waaaaaaaaaaay different than asking someone not to have a child!!! There is nothing wrong with giving hams away when you are a responsible breeder, that know what he/she is doing. So what I said was that this statment is not right at all!!!!!:

Everyone says that you should adopt hamsters from shelters who need a home or there are already too many hamsters. But wouldnt that be just like telling som1 not to have babies, instead you should adopt them becuase the world is already over-populated?

[Mitchandozzie]

I agree, you should not be breeding hamsters when you are twelve years old. Not only is it an extremely complicated process simply with the genetics, but you are taking responsibility for not only your hamster and your friends, but for all of the babies, whether there is one or 1000(ok so that wouldnt happen, but you get my point). I agree, you should get a hamster from a shelter. I'm going to start up a thread about this, I'm not going to put my opinion about it here, but you will get my point.
I know I wanted to breed hamsters when I was twelve too. I had a beautiful boy and my friend had a beautiful little girl, but we thought ahead, researched it, and decided it was not for the best. Even if you know what you're doing there can be consequences. The births can not go properly, and you can either wind up with a dead female and babies, or a large vet bill, or both. Also, if the female should happen to die for whatever reason, and the babies are alive, would you be prepared to feed the babies by hand every couple hours? Since you are 12 you would have to take time off school from this, and I bet your parents wouldnt wnat that to happen, so they would probably either wind up in a shelter or as snake food. Not pleasant, but I've heard of it happening.
I know I shouldnt be lecturing, as Im only 2 years older, (hey one of my best friends is 12!) But if you want to consider this in a couple years whe you have a job, know more about genetics and breeding, then go right ahead. You may think of things differently then though. I know I sure do. Also before you consider breeding ANYTHING I strongly suggest you go to a shelter and look at all the animals there. Not to consider adopting(though that would be nice) but to see how many animals end up there. There is always a chance that yours could too.

[yodelinghamster]

awesome mitchandozzie is back!!!!! wh00t! good point too!

[hayley88]

:confused: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME LOUISE!!! IM DOING THE SAME COURSE AS U (I THINK) NATIONAL DIPLOMA IN ANIMAL MANAGEMENT AND NEED HELP ON AN ASSIGNMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE IN IN 2 DAYS!!! ITS A BIG 1 FOR ANIMAL HEALTH ANS ANIMAL SCIENCE 1 (SIGNS OF ANIMAL HEALTH IMMUNITY AND DISEASE) IM ON THE TABLE PART OF THE ASSIGNMENT AND NEED HELP ON THAT PART, AND THE REST OF IT, PLEASE EMAIL ME AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE IF U CAN, THANKS SOOO MUCH . MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS :
Hayley_Thomas_16@Hotmail.com
-dog-

[shazzyswimmer]

Shut up Tia! I do know how to breed my hamsters and I know about their genetic backgrounds. I was asking if breeding COULD be done like that not like I was going to do it. Female hamsters need to be bred at 4-6 months old which is ideal for my hamster. I know not to touch them other cannibalism will start to take place. They all need to be separated by week 3-4. I already know how I will sell and/ or keep and look after them. I will clean the cage 2 days (approx) before the birth. I will feed her high protein foods and carbohydrates.

P.S- Tia don't judge me from a measly conversation I have feelings to and I have helped my friends in breeding situations.SO BE QUIET.

[booklady]

Shazzy, there is no reason to be rude and yelling at somone to tell them to "shut up" is not nice and is not going to show everyone else that you're mature and responsible. so calm down. no one said that you can't breed them, none of us can stop you if you decide to do it. you asked for the opinions of other people in the forum, which means you can't get annoyed at them when they have a different opinion then you have. Everyone here just wants to make sure that all animals are taken care of properly and that all the issues involved in breeding are taken into consideration.
NOW SIT DOWN AND PLAY NICE. I for one am getting sick and tired of all the CHILDREN on here bickering and getting rude when they are told something they don't want to hear. If you aren't mature enough to behave yourself in a public forum, you shouldn't be in one. Rules of behavior politeness DO belong online just as much as they do "in person."
And if I ever caught any of my step kids behaving like that in a chat room, forum, or anywhere else, you can darn well bet they'd be grounded and wouldn't be back online until they learned to behave nicely.

[HammysRme]

Shazzy is just offended about what tia is saying about her.. how she wouldnt "comprehend" or how she doesnt have a clue on how to raise a hamster. Or how if she does breed, she should just call herself a dumbutt and how she doesnt know crap. I personally think that she does have the capability of breeding hamsters and to me she looks like a responsable breeder since she DOES know about the genetic makeup and how to raise the young. Dont think that becuase shes 12 she doesnt know crap. Everybody just needs to calm down

[Jiffykat]

Notice that s/he said that they know how to LOOK AFTER, not TAKE CARE OF baby hammies. Anyone can look after them, it is taking care of them that you need to know how to do. To once again compare to humans, Some people can look after kids, but that doesn't meant that they can take care of them. Looking after, implies that you are taking care of them for a little bit, like an afternoon or something. Whereas taking care of them is like acutally taking care of them, cleaning, feeding, playing and whatnot. I wouldn't breed until you know for sure what you are doing. And unless you have homes for the future babies, or are prepared, mentally and financially to take care of all the babies.

[TiaMaria]

HammysRme, your an idiot! I just have to state that point, just because someone says they know it doesnt mean they actually know sh!t, its not hard to look it up on google, why do u think it took so long to reply..alot of search well how about u stop reading the internet and answer me this since u know so much about genetic make up in hamsters.

1. What changes the genetic code in hamsters?
2.Whats the code for Ba?
3.Whats the code for Wh?
4.How many chromozones are sent to one egg?
5.Whats the genecode for a dove colored Black, Cinnamon?
6.If the Cinnamon father and his golden daughter are mated then equal numbers of Cinnamon and Golden young would be expected. All the male's sperm can only contain the allele p, while half of the young female's eggs will contain P and the other half p.. Crossing them would give them what?

See it takes alot more then just reading, u need to call breeders, get experienced, watch them make a litter..there is alot for you to know, and now maybe u realize, since your hammie is hurt it is no longer qualified to make a good litter, and the p and rbc genes are no longer strong..even the wbc are weak and having a litter now would cause her to go into shock...Maybe even die, and the babies have a good chance of not even making it!

[Jiffykat]

Shut up Tia! ... SO BE QUIET.
Seriously, are we in grade school? If we are young enough to think this is appropriatem then we probably shouldn't be on-line un-supervised.

[TiaMaria]

I agree Jiffykat! I think he needs to behave like an adult before one can breed, if he treats me with this much verbal abuse..from me stating how i feel, imagine how much physical and verbal abuse he gives his poor hammie!

Like i read before on a signature...

Stupid people shouldnt breed...smart ones dont...i just feel, that this implies to him..

[flowerpage]

Tia, how can i contact you on messenger?

[HammysRme]

tia, you just used verbal abuse on me because of how i felt.

[HammysRme]

... also if im such an idiot... why dont you just ignore me rather than trying to put me down!?

[Mitchandozzie]

Whoa this is getting a little out of hand. I ain't callin anyone a little kid or anything, and I certainly ain't callin anyone stupid. However, I believe( I probably said this before) That you shoud NOT breed anything at twelve. I didn't and I certainly don't regret that descision. My friend's hammy was preganant by accident(came home with her prego) and we couldn't stop worrying about her the whole time. It's not like it's all fun. It costs alot more money than you probably think, and a ton of time. You also cannot hold the babies for quite some time after they are born, because they are just little pink blobs. Then they grow into little furry blobs. Then little furry blobs with teeth. Then little hamsters, when they have to go to seperate homes, unless you are planning on keeping them all, which could be a huge number of them, costing you even more money. As I said before: "YOUR PARENTS WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY NOT ALLOW THIS!". You said that you know all the genetics stuff and whatever, but reading one or two articles is enough if you want your little babies to be born into the world without eyes or other severe deformaties. I really would like to know how you know about all this stuff. I knew OF it when I was twelve, but I certainly didn't understand it in depth like you have to to breed successfully. Also, if you do know the genetic formulae like the back of your hand, you should be able to tell me right away what color babies your hamster and your friends hamster will produce. Can't do it? Didn't think so.
But anyways, I go back to the question I am forever asking. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO BRING MORE LIVES INTO THIS WORLD WHEN THERE ARE TOO MANY SUFFERING ANYWAY?! Tell your friends to go a a shelter and get a perfectly good hamster from there. Save a life instead of condeming one.
And listen to the people on here. Most are extremely smart and have much more experience then you. Telling them to "Shut up" is stupid, childish, and dishonourable. Stop acting like a child, because I won't consider you one unless you pull something stupid like that.

[Jiffykat]

Her friend shouldn't get another hammie, he practically killed hers.

[TiaMaria]

No one like him/her should have a hammie, and by u defending him/her hammysRme you dont deserve your either, why would u defend someone who leaves there hammies with people who abuse animals?!

[shazzyswimmer]

I didn't know he was going to. Did I!

[HammysRme]

well first of all, no one knows who anyone really is just by talking in a chat/ forum etc. Just becuase i defend for someone doesnt mean i dont deserve a hammy! i dont deserve a hammy if i cant take care of them or if i abuse them!

[TiaMaria]

Reguardless HammysRme and Shazzy...First of all..

Shazzy this is your baby, you are its mom and it counts on you and relys on you to take care of it, supply fresh water, food, clean bedding, a cage, a wheel. Those are responsibilities when you decided to purchase your hammie!
Maybe you didnt know he would do it, but he is a child none the less, u are a child but you are different, u have the passion for animals, he doesnt and chances are there is abusers in his household that made him react that way to poor Blossom :( You have now learnt that you cant always trust people, i am very angry simply because your ham was innocent, and didnt deserve to be punished. Your friend should be going to a boy home, for trouble children. You should call and report him! Before he does it to another defenseless animal!! You are responsible for that hammie and your better judgement was not involved, your hammie could pay dearly for that, with her life! Do you want that? Next time (if there is a next time) be a parent and an adult, you say u want to breed, well u have to protect your hammie from that! She could eventually carry babies, what if all the pressure from being choked killed her, what would ya do then? You couldnt breed..you'd be sad i hope!

When someone abuses an animal they lose all rights in my mind, it is wrong and disgusting!! Even with hammysRme defending you it makes me sick, because you should be old enough to say,"Yes, this is my fault (to some degree) I didnt use careful enough judgement when i left her with him, I have learned my lesson now, and I will never do that again." but instead your saying to me and all of petshub, " I didnt know now, did I?!" <---what kind of response is that, grow up and take resposibility, reguardless of the fact you didnt know it is still partly your fault, u have to grow and be a man and say, "Yes, it is partly my fault and i must take responsibility and get her to the vet ASAP!" dont make an appointment, this is life or death!

Now when u find out how Blossom is, please respond to us, and let us know, other then that, we dont what to hear your childish comments.

[paulandashia]

Ok, sorry to butt in here... And I hate to do this... BUT......

But I also must agree with the fact that 12 years olds SHOULD NOT HAVE A THING TO DO WITH BREEDING.!!!
When I was 12, I didn't even know what "sex" was.! LOL

Breeding Hamsters.?

I started THAT when I was 17teen (over 10 years ago), and had a JOB that I could spend MONEY on them to take CARE of them..!
I ONLY bred my little girl once, and kept ALL the babies until Ripe old age... Never gave a single one away...

The way I figure it, Breeding TAKES THINKING.!

And a 12-year old has NO BUSINESS thinking about making ANY KIND OF BABIES.!

[TiaMaria]

I agree 100% ^

[Jiffykat]

I think I said this before but if you can't financially afford to keep ALL OF THE BABIES if you can't find any other homes for them, then you shouldn't be breeding.

[TiaMaria]

I agree again 100%^

[Mitchandozzie]

Yep yep!! I probably wouldn't even breed if I had a job or money (or the choice to own more hamsters....). There are just too many dangers.

[shazzyswimmer]

I already know where my babies will go to plus we have a mansion. So we will be able to fit lots of cages inside of the house. Because of separtion and then the indivisual hamsters themselves. I may or may not breed, I maybe even breed then tonight, my choice I know what to do, I am intelligent, although it isn't anything to do with intelligences. I know their genetic backgrounds. I may not show it but I do know an awful lot about hamsters. It is not Blossom that is going to be bred. After all that trouble she doesn't derserve to be put through this. Plus she is too old.

P.s- Tia this is the "babies" thread not the one about Blossom. Post your comments about Blossom in that thread not this. OK Tia.
I expect helpful comments Tia, not grief. I realise my mistakes and i will learn from them. If you or any body else hasn't got any helpful advice to say don't say anything at all period.

[TiaMaria]

Shazzy grow up! Your a moron.

[shazzyswimmer]

That's immature and please no name calling, how old are you? Please grow up Tia. I have [ut an update on Blossom up know. Talk to you later when you have calmed down. Bye.

[yodelinghamster]

is she ok?!!?

[HammysRme]

it is your choice to do whatever you want to do shazzy. it is our choice to discourage or incourage you. but we cant stop anyone from doign what they want to do.

[shazzyswimmer]

I understand but Tia is being very immature by calling me that and I or Bloosom do not derserve to be treated with such immaturity and rudeness. If this does carry on I will take my business elsewhere.

[HammysRme]

i understand.. people do need to calm down a bit some becuase forums are meant for advice, not namecalling and all of this rudeness

[TiaMaria]

Lmfao take your business else where, and while you there stick it up your @$$! You disgust me..Hammy your a butt kisser.


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[TiaMaria]

You'd be doing us a favor leaving, then it wouldnt be talk to the airhead day everyday!

[HammysRme]

im flattered tia

[LaGypsyEyes]

wow...Tia...wow. You just told everyone here that name calling is very immature and stupid and yet you're the one that first off called Shazzy an air head. You need to calm down. What Shazzy wants to do is her business and its her business alone. She came around here asking for advice only to have you call her names she did not deserve.

Being 12 means nothing. It does not give you a certain intelligence or understanding level. Its extremely silly how you all say that. At 12 I understood most things that adults wouldnt even be able to comprehend. Its unfair to say that she doesnt know crap about crap. Like you know everything there is to know about hamsters? You really should calm down. It is only a thread after all. Whatever happened in her past with her animals she's learned from. You say she should have known the type of person that guy was before she left her animal with him. Its hard to really know a person. I bet in your mind you've atleast thought once or twice, "my friends dont get me" yeah well thats just it. You can never truly know a person. And I know you didnt say you knew everything about hamsters, but thats what it sounded like.

Everyone on this forum needs to grow up. She just asked a simple question and asked for advice. Thats it. She didnt need all this so called "Crap" from you guys. Learn to act a little more maturly about future posts similar to this.

Hammy- I admire you for sticking up for her.

[TiaMaria]

She or He Or IT is a hamster killer!! If you have a friend, you would know that persons temprament..because obviously your there friend, now if shazzy knew this friend so well, why let the poor hamster stay with his friend?!

[LaGypsyEyes]

ok agreeable, but some people....SOME people do contain their anger around people well. My parents do it. Others have done it. Basically what Im saying is, you can neve really know a person. And atleast now she knows not to trust anyone with her animals except herself.

[shazzyswimmer]

Thankyou HammysRme and La gypsyeyes I admire you sticking up for me.

Tia, I didn't come her for trouble I cam for advice. I certainly didn't come to be called immature names. I think I deserve a grown up, sincere apology, please.
Sure I have made some mistakes in my life such as: bad judgements, being cheeky and stop swining on the chair and falling off! lol. But I will learn from those. I am sure that you have made mistakes as well, eh? I am sorry for what happened to Blossom. My "friend" didn't seem as an aggresive guy, he even has a hamster. I had no idea.

P.s- For the record this is the "BABIES" thread not the one for Blossom. Please post advice for Blossom on that one.

[TiaMaria]

When u came here for advice shazzy, you were given advise and criticism, dont like what you hear...to bad..grow up and stop acting like a child. Just because you were told things u dont want to hear doesnt mean u have to have a baby attitude, now your trying to act all adult like, but most of us arent buying it. I said it once, and i will say it again...You dont deserve to have a hamster, let alone breed any.

[Jiffykat]

Okay, I would like to say a few things. First off, you'll "take you business elsewhere," this is a free website, therefore, there isn't really any "business" to take elsewhere. Second of all when you ask for advice, you will get criticism as well. That's just the way it is, deal with it. What's with your total attitude switch? You were really whiny when people started to criticize you, which yeah, getting criticized sucks, but you were acting like a whiny little child and now you are acting all adult, trying to fool the two butt-kissers into thinking you are adult enough to hadle baby gerbils. Third of all, have you even talked to your parents about breeding your hamsters, how do you know they will even let you breed them or keep the babies?

[TiaMaria]

I think i love you Jiffy! LOL

[ChocolateCharms]

Okay, Shazzy, Why is it that this stuff is happening to all your "Friends". I think it's BS and It's you doing the damage to these poor creatures. Your childish behavior when someone tries to help is really getting annoying. Why don't you behave like a good little child, sit back, and listen. You DON'T need to breed after what you or your friend did to that hamster. You don't even deserve to have one if you're going to act that way. I have been keeping quiet and not saying much until you run your mouth to people who are trying to frickin help you.

-Chelsea

[TiaMaria]

I think i love u too Chelsea! :D

[Jiffykat]

Loves to you too!

[TiaMaria]

:D Lots of love for everyone...cept shazzy, i dont put out for scum... Sorry, but thats just how i feel, have a problem with it...take it up with my middle finger..


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[Jiffykat]

LOL! I can understand that though, there have to be standards. I say even with the lowest of standards, they have to at least have common sense. Not that I have low standards, but common sense is a must.

[yodelinghamster]

hahahahaha!! nice tia!! I agree!!!

[Jiffykat]

Nor was I implying that you do Tia, I just thought I would clarify that, I was just re-reading it and thought it might have sounded like I was implying that, but I wasn't, or didn't mean to if that is how it sounded.

[hamstersrock]

Ok you guys you might be hurting feeling's here ok.

[hamstersrock]

No I didn't see this was this long I just saw the first page sorry

[TiaMaria]

LOL its okay hamstersrock, no worries or harm done.

[shazzyswimmer]

Close this thread. Nothing good is coming of it.

[TiaMaria]

Cuz your a whiney baby.

[lilforjc]

Shazzyswimmer-Hi,my name is Lisa and I am new here. I wanna fill you in real quick-Santa brought us our first hamsters on Christmas Eve-they died of wet-tail a little after the New Year-we were incredibly sad, but did research and got new hamsters...they aRE DOING GREAT AND WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG-i SAID ALL THAT TO SAY THIS-i, TOO, AM A VCOMPULSIVE PERSON AND IT IS VERY EASY TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE EMOTION OF THE MOMENT, JUMP IN AND NOT THINK AHEAD. i AM SURE YOU KNOW MORE ABOUT HAMSTERS AT 12 THAN i DO AT 33, BUT i WOULD ASK YOU TO THINK OF A FEW THINGS THAT i DON'T THINK GOT COVERED IN THIS UGLY THREAD-NOT TO BE NOSY, BUT AT 12 YOU CAN'T HAVE A JOB-WHO FINANCIALLY SUPPORTS YOUR ANIMALS? Who would take care of them while your at school? Also, you are coming up on the busiest years of your teenage life...I know better than to try to convince a pre-teen of anything, but just wanted to see if I could get you to calm down, not be defensive and think.(sorry this went to caps-i didn't realize I hit the shift key)

[HammysRme]

Can everybody just drop it now? It's old and she said shed be reconsidering breeding.

[TiaMaria]

Saying and Doing are two very different things!


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[HammysRme]

you are right tia. well no one can be sure if she really is ronsidering even if she does say it.

[Jiffykat]

Nice moderator note.

[flowerpage]

where did it come from?

[Chaos]

The moderators? :p

[yodelinghamster]

lol, chaos!!!! Yeah, it came from the moderators!!!! lol!!!

[Chaos]

Yodeling, again I like your new av. :)

[yodelinghamster]

tha, I thought Mimi deserved a turn until I got her (and for that matter all my other pets:) ) pictures in my gellery!! and she is super cute!! lol!!!!!!!!

[yodelinghamster]

meant to say T-H-A-N-X!! Why doe it not let me say that!!! $%!@$%&!!! &#@!!^!!! lol!! joke!

[TiaMaria]

LOL guys....at least the moderators werent rude about it...it was kinda nice.. :)

[Jiffykat]

Did you write more that message? Did they edit it or anything?

[TiaMaria]

no they never did anything, we have great moderators here.

[Mitchandozzie]

Yes we really do. I agree with Tia, and everyone else whos names Im too lazy to simply scroll up and look at everyones names. Hehe, me in a nutshell. Anyways, I agree, someone could simply say they wont do something, and they do it anyways. I dunno, im not a very trusting person. But, Tia and the others come down harshly because they only want the best for animals, of all kinds. I admit, I would be saying the same things if I wasnt sick and tired. Ahaha.

[ChocolateCharms]

This is a lovely thread. But let's stop, Okay? I'm not going to reply to her or try to help her anymore. I am sick and tired of the dirty comments that come when I try to help.

-Chelsea

[Jiffykat]

Well it is true though, many times people will say something just to get you off their back and then do the complete opposite.