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[lindseyR]

:mad: i have a friend who blows marijuana smoke into his hamster cage....i keep telling him not to do this..he minght hurt him. does any one know somw facts about how it minght cause the hamster harm that i can tell him so my friend will listen to me and stop doing this? :(

[LilSnooPydOG]

First thing I'd do is get him off the drugs. :rolleyes:

Think of how terrible it is for humans...it is MUCH worse for little hamsters! Their tiny little lungs and fragile respiratory systems can not handle smoke period. If he "has" to ( :rolleyes: ), can't her at *least* do it in a room AWAY from the hamster, or outside?

Sheesh, how can he think he's not harming that poor critter...

[TiaMaria]

That hamster is probably high out of its mind, there is probably tar in the hamsters lungs, and has a respitory infection, if this person cares about his/her hamster then he would smoke it else where...what u should do is call animal control and tell them, so they can go save the poor lil hammie!!
If he doesnt stop this his/her hammie will be dead soon! To much tar build up will make it unable to breath.

[pandiapita04]

YES the RE RE need to STOP not ONLY for the hammie but THAT STUFF KILLS....
How old is you FRIEND? does his/her perants know?
It's not my life but I wouldn't even hang with people like that??
I guess your in to it too?

[lindseyR]

no.. just because my friends do something does not mean that i am a follower and also do it

[flowerpage]

Its definately good of you to care about the hamster Lindsey, and maybe it would be beneficial to make an anonymous call to the police.....i don't know your friend, but drugs are never good for anyone or anything. Hang in there....let us know how it goes.

[pandiapita04]

Have you talked to your friends perants?
:mad:

[pandiapita04]

:mad2: :mad2:

Something Needs to be done!

[lindseyR]

i have been wanting to get a second hamster... and my friend isnt particularly fond of his (obviously) so im going to ask him if he wants to give it to me.. which i think he will

[flowerpage]

great. let us know how it goes!

[Jiffykat]

Hopefully, he will see that it is the right thing to do. Not to criticize you or anything, but you might want to choose who you hang out with a little more carefully. A couple of my friends got into drugs, so I quit haning out with them. One of them has been clean for two or three years now, but ended up getting raped and robbed while she was high. The other one is finally starting to turn her life around, just got out of jail and living in a car with her boyfriend. I am not saying this will happen to you, but you might want to consider this, when thinking about your friendships.

[flowerpage]

How's it going Lindsey?

[Mitchandozzie]

I know people who do stupid stuff like drugs, and it is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Most only smoke cigarrettes, and I even bother them about that every time I see them light up. I know it's hard to talk to your friends about that Lindsey, but you should give it a try.
Also, it would be great if he gave the hamster to you. Then everyone would be happy! Including the hamster! :)

[Chinchillalovin]

Hopefully he'll give you the hamster!! Poor hammie, it's probably getting a respiratory infection or something...Hope you can SAVE IT'S LIFE!

[Jiffykat]

Let us know if you get the hamster.

[raYne25]

yeah my friend did this all the time. and it died. in like a few months. what a freakin idiot. He kept trying to get me to do it to my hammys. well how about NOT fool. i don't want to kill my lil children. never ever will i smoke drugs in my room. f.ucking up my own body is my own problem but I won't do it to my precious lil buddys!

[yodelinghamster]

rayne, you smoke? and tell us if he gave you the hammy. I hope you can save it.:(

[Jiffykat]

rayne, wasn't the one who started this thread, lindsay was the one asking about the smoke.

[ChocolateCharms]

I hope you get the hamster. That's f***ing cruel. I won't even let my dad smoke a cigarette near me let alone my hamsters and birdies. I have a metal "No smoking" sign on my door :)

-Chelsea

[TiaMaria]

I am a smoker, but i smoke strictly outside, i wont have that around the animals and people i love the most!

[TiaMaria]

Maybe i should point out the fact i smoke cigarettes not drugs lol...okay now that ive done that, i feel less stupid! LOL

[Jiffykat]

Lol, that is sad that it must be clarified like that.

[TiaMaria]

Yes, yes very much so! LOL

[ChocolateCharms]

This discussion is getting to be hilarious. I'm so tired I'm laughing at everything that pops up on the screen. :)

-Chelsea

[TiaMaria]

You just enjoy our company :-p we are all normally nutty especially around this time.. wait until Yodeling comes back on and Chaos, they are my good friend...Flower too, they are great enjoyment for the whole entire family :)

[Jiffykat]

At least Lindsay isn't freaking out at what people say. Especially, because it should have been a given that blowing smoke into cages is bad. It is like when people get their dog drunk, you just don't do it.

[lindseyR]

I got the hamster! :) im a not going to keep it in the same cage as my hamster even though they are both dwarfs.. i didnt think it would be a good idea because i have had mine for about 4 months and i dont want to make him mad or jealous because his cage is not that big... they are both males do yall think i should put them together? ... my hamster is extrmemly nice and very tame... the new hamster is not very sociable and bites sometimes... i know this is because he has not been handled to often so i am trying to change that i just dont know if i should but them together because i do not want him to fight my hamster... does any one have any suggestions?

[yodelinghamster]

You just enjoy our company :-p we are all normally nutty especially around this time.. wait until Yodeling comes back on and Chaos, they are my good friend...Flower too, they are great enjoyment for the whole entire family :)


gee tha tia! your pretty awesome too! :grin:

[yodelinghamster]

and nutty lol!!!!!

[lizzie2002]

people, its just pot geez get over it..cigarette smoke has been proven that it is worse for you then pot. cigarettes contain more tar and cancer causing chemicals. im not saying that its a good thing to blow the smoke in the hamsters face. but its each individuals choice whether or not to get high, so leave the poor guy alone!

[ChocolateCharms]

Yeah, that was corny and Immature. All smoke is bad. Just because you and your friends find it fun doesn't mean people should all like it. It's bull shizzat.

-Chelsea

[Chaos]

gee tha tia! your pretty awesome too! :grin:

Tia is the bestest. :D And Yodeling too.

I stopped smoking inside (cigs) cause of my hammies. I used to smoke out of my window but I didn't wanna poison them. Than I quit, which is good.

[Jiffykat]

Spoken like a true pot-head. However, one thing you failed to mention, smoking marijuana is ILLEGAL. So that right there makes it that much worse. Anyway to answer your question Lindsey, I wouldn't put them together. At least not until the new hamster is more tamed and sociable. (I don't have experience with hamsters so much. I am planning to get one soon, but can't make up my mind as to what kind to get.) As for what to do once he gets more tame and sociable, you are going to have to figure out from what the more hamster savy people can tell you.

[TiaMaria]

Lind, i never said anything bad about your bub, that i can recall anyways, im a alcohalic...LMFAO...i cant remember much, what he does he does...drinks to u :)

I would keep them seperate until he is tame, then try some confrintations with them.

[ChocolateCharms]

Thankies Jiffy <3 ya babe.

-Chelsea

[Kawaii na Usagi]

I'm sorry, but i could not just let this topic go by me so easily.

I find it necessary to correct all the mistakes i read in this topic, read on if you wish, i'll be stating them purely for personal satisfaction and the possibility in educating someone about something.

First thing first, Yes Marijuana is carcinogenic; all smoke is, some more than others. For example, cigarettes have a filter, therefore less solid particles of tar are inhaled, while cannabis (marijuana) smokers don't use a filter [excluding the water filtration method. aka bong]
Marijuana smoke has a higher mass ratio, therefore making it harsher on the lungs if inhaled directly with out being cooled by any method. It has a different concentration of chemicals, THC being the main active component in the plant which people seek to get high and possibly use to treat certain ailments; the concentration of the chemicals is dependant on the potency of the strain.
While using cannabis in any method is frowned apon by much of the USA and other westernized countries, people seem to be blinded by the anti-drug campaign that is aimed at the media driven public by using scare tactics in hopes to sway them into a definite decision made by a 'good vs evil' battle. If that makes sense. If anyone would actually see research papers relating not only to marijuana, but other substances that are now deemed 'evil', people would be much wiser on what they are talking about, and not only paraphrasing what the government, media or the such preached to them(or their parents) when they were growing up.

I'm not trying to be a hypocrite if thats what you're thinking, i'm simply explaining that if someone would use their own intelligence and find out what truely is going on in the real world for themselves, today's society would be much less troublesome and alot more productive.

I have some words to say to the following people and their quotes:

I know people who do stupid stuff like drugs, and it is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Dumbest thing you've ever seen? I could drift off into an immature argument, but all i'm going to say is that there are worse things in life than someone sitting at home and enjoying the occasional joint.

cigarette smoke has been proven that it is worse for you then pot. cigarettes contain more tar and cancer causing chemicals.
What did you base this information on?
This goes along with what I explained earlier. Don't believe everything you hear/read

Hopefully, he will see that it is the right thing to do. Not to criticize you or anything, but you might want to choose who you hang out with a little more carefully. A couple of my friends got into drugs, so I quit haning out with them. One of them has been clean for two or three years now, but ended up getting raped and robbed while she was high. The other one is finally starting to turn her life around, just got out of jail and living in a car with her boyfriend. I am not saying this will happen to you, but you might want to consider this, when thinking about your friendships.
True or not, I believe others should see what circumstances are in play and to what degree. If someone is in an abusive relationship, where they are forced to do things which they are not willing to do, being beaten or abused physically and or mentally, then action should be taken to protect themselves and possibly the one doing the damage. But, if it's a mild infraction of your own personal views, i belive it's pretty closed minded to block out your friends which probably don't have anything against you personally. I would share what you think about the situation with them, and continue in your OWN direction without shutting someone out of your life if they don't comply with your demands (that sounds very totalitarian in that persons part).
What happens to one person who chooses a very similar path(if not virtually identical) of another person who wasted their life compleatly due to the wrong choices, doesn't mean that they will turn out exactly like them.

and maybe it would be beneficial to make an anonymous call to the police.....i don't know your friend, but drugs are never good for anyone or anything.
Think about it in the long run, sure it will get one individual out of a community, making you feel better about yourself ( :rolleyes: ) but what about the person you called the police on? I understand that doing something illegal isn't exactly role-model material; but what have you decided for that one individual? you set his/her path for them(could be in the wrong or right direction depending on what happens while he/she's being punished[Jail?]) He/she might learn their lesson, or they will see a new light and continue to drive their 'new' life further into the wrong direction, because of the thinking pattern of "What have I got to lose now?"
Think about it.

I'm not trying to dictate to anyone what they should be doing, you know what you're doing better than anybody else since they, including myself, have not lived your life and do not know what you went through. Just use that thing between your ears that always seems to talk to you when you're trying to make a decision.
The more you know, the better the world will seem to live in and you'll feel much more confident and comfortable in your own shoes.

My $0.02

-Wojy

[Jiffykat]

But, if it's a mild infraction of your own personal views, i belive it's pretty closed minded to block out your friends which probably don't have anything against you personally. I would share what you think about the situation with them, and continue in your OWN direction without shutting someone out of your life if they don't comply with your demands (that sounds very totalitarian in that persons part). If you think deciding not to hang out with people that are doing drugs and other illegal activities is a "mild infraction" on someones personal views and doesn't warrant not hanging out with them anymore, then you have issues (probably yourself or loved ones in a similar situation) that you probably need to look into getting taken care of.

I did share what I thought of the situation with them (not the rape and robbery because I didn't find out until she was clean, because they quit talking to me when they started to get high, because I was a downer to them, because I told them not to, and refused to do drugs with them) and quite frankly they told me to kiss their *sses and they would do what they wanted to do.

I did continue with my direction. Fortunately, my direction, doesn't involve pot head losers, and illegal activites, so I really had no choice. It is not totalitarian of me to not hang out with people that are doing illegal things. I didn't expect them to comply with my every thought and view, simply to not do ILLEGAL DRUGS. It is not totalitarian of me to choose not to surround myself with people who make bad choices. As the saying goes, "You are who you hang out with." I chose not to be that.

[PetLuver21257]

Well, sort of speaking of smoke, does incense hurt hamsters?

Sometimes I light incense in my room for like less than 20 minutes. And after the 20 minutes, I open the windows. I rarely do this, only like 5 times a year....

But if it is hurting my hamster, I will not do it in my room!!

I also think that smoking anything or doing ANY drugs is terrible!!! You are just hurting your body to feel good for like 1 hour and then the rest of your life you are damaged!

Just please don't do drugs!

[HandcuffedAngel]

Drugs are altogether immature. Find a more legal outlet for life's frustrations.

Not only does the hamster need to be rescued, but so does the boy.

And from what I know, people who smoke joints don't smoke them only on occassion. It's more like an every weekend things and that hamster she was speaking of is going to die.

Drugs make you stupid, whether you're stupid before you take them or not. Two close friends of mine did drugs for years without any bad experiences and then suddenly had one bad trip and both almost died.

I would call the cops if I knew a friend who did these things to a poor hamster, but I'm more of an animal person anyway.

[yodelinghamster]

I agree with Angel. Petluver, Incense if strong enough can hurt hamsters but what you are doing sounds fine. Since you don't do it often, and you open the windows, and it isn't very strong it is ok. If you are worried (you shouldn't be) then you could just remove the hamster's cage from your room while you do...

[yodelinghamster]

Oh sorry for the double post but we should just let this board die it is old. Someone with a big ego just had to correct all these "mistakes." So lets let it go... I didn't remember this board, so when I saw these posts by these poeple that were my friends that had left, I thought they were back! I really wish they were, they were great! Sometimes I feel there is no reason to be here anymore cause they are gone... ok ok waaaaaaay off subject anywya lets let the board die it is all over.