Guppy question!

[Faith79]

Yesterday I got a female guppy thats pregnant, a male guppy and a small goldfish to go in my 10 gallon aquarium. The man at the fish store told me that when the female had babies that the goldfish wouldnt eat them, that they would be fine. Is this true? Will the goldfish eat the babies or will they be fine, like he said? If somebody could help me out I would really appreciate it, thanks!

[rubysoho]

I think your goldfish will probably eat them, but it might be too slow, so I'm not sure. You'll need to get a few more female guppies though because the males can be very "persistant" in wanting to make babies. It will be very stressful on your female if she is the only one. Also, be prepared to have many babies if your goldfish doesn't eat them. Sometimes guppies will eat their own babies too.

[cinnyandsimon]

i wouldn't chance it , and in the future when you buy guppies , buy three females to every one male . the male might stress out your one female by trying to mate with her so much it stresses her to death . if you really want to ensure the survival of the babies remove the male as well , just to be safe . hope it helps , congrats , and good luck .

[Faith79]

Thanks! I will definetly remove the goldfish. I have gotten another pregnant female guppy and have decided to go back for a third. The man that sold me the fish really seemed to know what he was talking about, I can't believe he would tell me the goldfish wouldnt eat the baby guppies, when it might. I hate not being able to trust people. I do not have another 10 gallon tank but I have a nice sized fish bowl (not sure of the size, but its a nice sized one). Would the one goldfish live in it ok???? Or do I need to buy another aquarium set up just for the goldfish?

[cinnyandsimon]

my rule of thumb is unless they are a store that tells you not to buy their stuff , or even to go to another store and buy their stuff , to not believe anything they say . the second they start talking about you spending money , stop believing them , go home and do some online research , then if it cooberated by forum community members , then and only then should you go back and buy whatever it was.


AND NEVER NEVER EVER BELIEVE ANYONE FROM WALMART , NOT EVER!

[rubysoho]

goldfish need at least 10 gallons per fish. They are very dirty fish and yours will surely die if it is kept in just a bowl. Also, you will have LOTS of guppy babies that will need to grow up. Sure you can cram 40 or 50 guppies in a 10 gallon, but I don't like that method. You will easily get up to that amount of baby guppies if you don't remove the male.

*edit* Cinny makes a very good point about people who work at fish stores and ESPECIALLY walmart/petsmart etc... It is nice to find someone at a particular store that you know you can trust. Luckily I have a friend who works at my local fish store and he knows A LOT about fish.

[Faith79]

The fish store that I got my fish from is private owned and operated by a man that is a very good friend of the family's who has kept fish a very long time. I trust him, because there were certain more expensive fish that I was wanting to buy that he steered me away from, because they wouldnt get along with my fish, or wouldnt be good in my 10 gallon tank. So, he wasnt out for my money, that was obvious. You could tell that he had an extraordinary passion for his fish. He is a retired school principal and keeping fish is his hobby, thats why he started the business. He didnt start up his fish business to put food on the table, it was just something he said he enjoyed doing. When we got there it was 4pm and he was with somebody. He waited on that one person for 30 solid minutes. Then waited on us for 45 minutes. My mom was one of the students at the school he was principal at and he gave her 3 free fish to go in her aquarium: a swordtail, guppy, and molly, just to be nice. But anyways,I called him back last night and asked if it were possible that the goldfish would eat the babies and his reply was, "i dont think it would happen, but its not impossible." he then went on to tell me about this breeding thing he sells thats like a mini aquarium. I am going today to pick one up. Once the guppies start reproducing I am going to get another big aquarium. He also told me about some aquatic plants hes going to be getting in. Im going to get one of those as well. He bought a ton of supplies and stuff from a store that was going out of business and he took me to the inventory room to show me all he had and it was stacked to the ceiling! I coudnt believe what all he had and his prices were the best around. I am interested in other fish I could put in the tank along with the guppies. Does anybody have any suggestions?

[rubysoho]

well, I am glad you found someone you can trust, I think that is one of the hardest things in fishkeeping ;) When you are raising the guppies, it would be best to not have any gravel on the ground so you can get up all the excess food. Also, you'll need a sponge over the filter intake to prevent the little ones from being sucked up. Water changes are a must and I recommend reading from many different sources about raising guppies.

suggestions for tank mates (not in the "grow out" tank) would be cory cats just because they stick around the bottom of the tank, are REALLY cute, and pretty easy to care for so long as you vacume your gravel once a week. A nice school of 3-5 would be good in the 10 gallon.

[Faith79]

Thanks! I will check on the cory cats. If I've seen those before, I dont remember it. I will definetly read up on raising guppies. I am going back to the man's store this afternoon and I intend on getting alot of information from him (he of course raises his own) How would it do to get a pleco or mystery or ramshorn snail to put in the tank? Dont they suck stuff off the bottom??

[rubysoho]

well, about scavengers, you need to understand they won't eat waste, but they will get any excess food. With the larger snails, you need to have an established tank with lots of algae growth. Plecos are easier to keep because you can give them algae waffers and blanched (boiled for 30 seconds) zuchini (sp?). Make sure you don't get the common pleco, they get over 18 inches long. You should try to find a rubber lip pleco, bristle nose pleco, or gold nugget pleco. Here is a link to a bunch of types of plecos and there are quick stats including full grown sizes on each fish. http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/scateg.cfm?pCatId=837
Ignore the prices, they are way to high.

[Faith79]

Thanks. I went back to the store and I now have in my tank: three guppies, two swordtails, a molly, a platy, a goldfish, and a pleco. The man assured me that it was a pleco that would stay small and showed me what was supposed to have been a grown one. I also bought a three way breeding tank that floats to keep my pregnant fish in. I bought three plants too, Im not sure what kind they are, he told me, but ive forgotten. I payed $3.50 for the pleco, thats a pretty good price isn it??? Im not sure what they usually cost.

[rubysoho]

well, I hate to say this, but your tank if overstocked. Goldfish, and plecos, are very very messy and poop a lot (it is amazing how much poop comes from such a small fish!). Just the livebarers alone would fill your tank nicely. I'm a little concerned about the pleco though. Can you do me a favor and check out this page and let me know which kind you think it is?
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/scateg.cfm?pCatId=837

Since your tank is very much over stocked, and it sounds like you added a bunch of fish today, your tank is going to go through a nasty cycle in the next two weeks. My suggestion is to take some of the fish back, buy another tank ;), OR if you must keep all the fish, gravel vacume every other day AT LEAST. Once your tank cycles in about two weeks, you can cut down to every 3-5 days. However, if you talk to many goldfish experts, 10 gallons is the minimum for that ONE fish with no friends and they change about 45% of the water once a week and gravel vac. a few times a week. I'm telling you all this because there is nothing more discouraging than losing fish when you are starting a tank, and I don't want you to lose any fish.

[Faith79]

Thanks! I had intended on separating the golfish into a tank by itself or buying a much larger tank, but theres still something i dont understand about that. The golfish isnt much over an inch long. Its considered a "feeder" goldfish, or so it said on the tank they were in. Its crazy that one TINY goldfish requires 10 gallons to itself. wow. I have got to get either another 10 gallon aquarium or just a bigger aquarium in general. I didnt buy the one from the man because I know where I can get one alot cheaper. I dont know why his were so expensive, everything else he has is cheap. I vacuumed the tank both yesterday and today. Theres also something else I do not understand: I only have seven fish in the tank, if you dont count the goldfish I am going to possibly remove (or put all into a bigger tank)...and thats too many????? Seven livebearers and one pleco is too much for one tank??? As for the pleco: I've looked at the site again and I cant identify which it is. It really doesnt look completely like any one of them. Is that all the types of plecos there is? I will call the man tomorrow and ask what type it is. Ok, for the fish I have, what size tank is best if I decide to keep them all together? Is 50 ok?

[Pippin]

A feeder goldfish is a comet goldfish. These fish can grow a foot long and larger. They actually need a pond but a very large tank is ok.
The fish may be small now but you need to stock the tank according to the adult size of the fish. If young fish are placed in too small of a tank they will be stunted. Ammonia and simple lack of space will cause stunting. The fishes insides continue to grow but the outside has stopped. Its like blowing up a ballon inside the fish...not a good thing.
The pleco is most likely a common pleco....brown and kinda bland. They too grow a foot and more and do not belong in a ten gallon. I would not trust anything else this employee tells you.
I would get a 55 gallon tank and place the goldfish and pleco in it. Then, later on, add a second comet. This is actually overstocked but you can get away with it as long as you add no more fish! Also, make sure you buy a good filter and do frequent large water changes.
That leaves you with 7 livebearers. They should all reach at least 2 inches at adulthood. So....14 inches of fish total. The general rule of thumb with smaller fish with a light bio-load is one inch of fish per gallon so you will be slightly overstocked. Just keep up with the water changes and add no more fish.

[rubysoho]

Rule of thumb for beginners (and most people who don't want as much responsibility) is you should only have 1 inch of fish per gallon. You have to use their adult size as the gauge. People always say "fish grow to the size of the tank" this is only true because they end up dieing due to poor living conditions. That one inch goldfish you have will eventually grow to be 8-10 inches. Aside from that, goldfish produce a lot more waste than most other fish. Their poop also contains higher levels of ammonia. More ammonia means the tank gets dirty at a faster rate. A ten gallon tank really is very small and the water chemistry can become unbalanced very quickly. I hope that makes sense.

On top of deciding how much fish your tank can safely hold, you also need to consider the type of fish you want. It is best to find fish that occupy different levels of the tank so the fish don't feel crowded. When fish feel crowded, they become stressed and sometimes aggressive. This can lead to sickness and death.

If you are looking for a new tank, a cheap upgrade would be the 29 gallon starter kit you can find at walmart. If you feel you might want more challenging fish in the future, you might want to look into putting together a tank yourself by buying individual peices. It will be expensive, but not as expensive as trying to upgrade an already set up tank. Take into consideration if you want live plants, what kind of plants because some require more lighting than others. Do you want sensative fish like a Discus? If so you'll need a better filter than what comes with a walmart or petsmart kit. If you just want a nice looking tank without much responsibility, a starter kit from walmart is perfect and will do the job.

[Faith79]

Wow, with all the information I have to say that I am somewhat confused. I never knew it could be so complicated. A plain goldfish can grow to be 8-10 inches...wow. I figured I was doing the right thing by trusting and listening to the man who my family seems to be so fond of. I do not know what to do now, im so confused. Expense is not an issue, let me say that first. I knew when I got into fish it was going to be expensive and I've saved up money strictly for nothing but fish, fish supplies and fish care. It looks like I am going to give the goldfish away. I am going to give it to a friend who has a tank and only wants one fish. Im going to do that possibly today or at the latest, tomorrow. So, that solves that problem. I need to say that I dont mind alot of responsibility, half the fun of keeping fish to me is taking care of them and the tank. Now, heres my next question: If I were to buy a 29 gallon kit or 55 gallon tank, would the seven livebearers and pleco be ok in that or would you consider that overcrowded too? Which would be best?

[rubysoho]

oh, they will be just fine in the 29 or 55 gallon and you will have room for even more fish (in the future once your tank cycles). Now, since it seems that your are pretty responsible and looking forward to taking care of your fish, I suggest you start reading before you make any more moves. liveaquaria.com and planetcatfish.com are great websites to start from. You'll want to plan out your tank. Take into consideration adult sizes, individual fish needs (swimming space, water perameters), do you want live plants, do you want a peaceful community, or a more aggressive community? Do you want an active tank where the fish are always swimming, or one that is slower? Once you start thinking about these things, you'll be able to plan out your tank the way you want it. You'll enjoy it more, make less mistakes and spend less money. For now your 10 gallon will be okay with the livebearers and pleco, but it will need extra cleaning because it is cycling.

[Faith79]

Thanks so much. I may just go on ahead and go with the 55 gallon tank, so that I could add more fish in the future and so I would have room to raise some baby guppies. Thanks for the reading suggestions, I will definetly check them out. In answer to some of the questions I should be asking myself, that you listed: yes... I want live plants, a peaceful community,I would love to one day have several small fish: like mollies,platys,guppies,tetras, etc.... Hopefully VERY soon I will get a larger tank but until I have it and it has been set up, should I vacuum the 10 gallon tank out everyday? How often should I take 2 quarts out and put 2 aged quarts in????

[shev]

Sorry i only skimmed to pages.

As mentioned plecos and goldfish are are huge poop makers. so what kind of a pleco is it? plecos like the slime coat of goldfish and often times leave nasty hickeys on the goldfish. Some livebearers like mollies also will relentlessly pick at the slime coat of goldfish.

goldfish and plecos love to eat plants. well plecos like to eat algae off the plants, but their rasping lips will destroy the leaves. depends on the species of pleco.

do not remove too much from a ten gallon. removing too much water depletes the aquarium of helpful bacteria, usually mostly established in the filter and gravel. it's hard to remove all the waste from the gravel without removing too much water. What i do is take a water pump, put it in a bucket with a breeders net around it, then siphon water from the tank into the bucket, the pump takes the water back into the aquarium but leaving the waste in the bucket. i would vaccuum once a weak, is the tank cycled yet?

you can fit a crapload of livebearers and small tetras into a 55 gallon.

snails are excellent, they clean up excess food and sometimes aerate the gravel, and clean algae off the walls. ghost shrimp also do that.

[rubysoho]

I would gravel vac about every other day, this way the bacteria has time to break down the toxins and multiply in your tank. Whatever water that gets sucked out during the vacuming is the amount you should replace. That will do for the water changes. To vacume the gravel, it is good to stick the siphon down into the rocks and you'll see a cloud of gunk flow up. You don't need to get every bit, just the majority so the tank doesn't become too polluted. This is especially important since you tank is cycling.

As for the 55 gallon, great choice! It will be a beautiful tank. With all the choices of colorful tetras and livebearers, I want to suggest you get a small school of 5-10 zebra danios. These fish are extremely active, very hardy, and their activity will put the rest of the fish at ease. Something about them being in the open makes the other fish feel comfortable. Also, German Blue Rams are beautiful fish, so a pair or two would look lovely. They can be territorial if they breed, but plently of plants and decorations will allow them to set up territories. They are a pretty sensative fish though, so I would add them last after you get in the rythm of taking care of your tank and it is nice and stable.

*edit*
shev, the good bacteria isn't really in the water as much as it is in all the surfaces of the rocks, decorations, and inside the filter. The main problem with taking out lots of water at a time is it can be very stressful on the fish. It is best to do smaller changes more frequently. I just do it whenever I vacume my gravel, which is about once or twice a week.

[Faith79]

Thanks! We've gotten the new tank and now its time to set it up. I'm leaving it to my mom to set up, since she was mostly the one who went for the really big tank, and wants to do it. Anybody have suggestions or tips? The goldfish is now out of the 10 gallon tank, by the way, it was given away. Rubysoho: the man at the fish store suggested danios too! I will definetly get some once the tank has settled or whatever.

[rubysoho]

actually, the danios are the hardiest fish so you may want those first to cycle the big 55 gallon tank. Get about 10 and they should do well.

For the 55 gallon tank, wip it down with a wet cloth to make sure no nasties are in it from the manufacturer. Put it in a place where there is no direct sunlight hitting it. Then, decide on what kind of substrate you want. If you want live plants, I suggest getting Flourite. It comes with some natural nutrients your plant will need, but it is a tad expensive. about 75 pounds of substrate will be what you'll need. If you want sand, then 100 pounds will be good. Make sure you rinse whatever substrate you put in your tank VERY WELL. There is always a lot of dust and smaller grains that will want to float and get in your filter, which can limit its life. A good thing to do is get sponge to put over yur filter because that will prevent anything bad from getting in there, but the toxins will still pass through so they can be filtered out.

Next, fill the tank with water, don't turn on the filter yet because you want all the remaining dust to settle. This could take up to 24 hours, depending on how well you rinsed your substrate. I use a fishnet to collect a lot of the floating particles. It just speads up the process.

Now it is time to get your most hardiest fish (the danios) along with some fast growing plants to help absorb toxins the good bacteria can't (at least not until it is well established). Liveaquaria.com has a great list of plants that you can usually find in your local fish store. Find out how much lighting you have versus the gallons of water your tank holds. If it is 1.5 watts or lower per gallon, you can only have low light plants. if it is 1.5-2.5 watts/gallon, you can do low and medium light plants... anything higher an you can have any plant you desire, but you run the risk of algae blooms because a major source of their nutrients comes from light. This can be curved by adding CO2 to the tank and I can help you with that if this is the case.

OKay, now the plants and fishies are in, it is time to wait. It will take about 3 weeks to cycle your tank. The danios are a pretty light load so you won't need to do as much cleaning as you are doing with your ten gallon. Gravel vac about once a week and whatever water comes out during that time, is the amount you put fresh water in for. No need to replace water more than that. Just make sure you don't add any more fish to the tank for a minimum of three weeks.

The real way to tell if your tank is cycled is to test your water perameters. Slowly, your tank will go through a spike in ammonia, then a spike in nitrates. Then both will go down to zero. When they both reach zero, you can safely add a small amount of fish. Don't get everything you want all at once. A good rule of thumb is add no more than 5 small fish (to a 55 gallon tank) at once and no more than two medium fish or one large fish. This should be a good start, got any other questions?

[Faith79]

All I can say is WOW! Thank you so much for all that information. I appreciate you taking the time to type it all out. I've let my mom read it, because as I said, shes going to be the one in charge of the set up. You pretty much covered everything, I really dont have any more questions in regards to the actual setup. Well, yes I do. What can I expect as far as cloudiness goes? After it is done cycling should the water be completely clear? Should we test the water ever so often?? As I said, I want to keep fish like: danios,mollys,platys,swordtails,guppies, etc. After the tank has cycled, I want to add a few here and there, not all at once, of course, and I was wondering if you could tell me what other fish go good with the ones i mentioned? I also have a question about aquatic snails. I think they are great and I would love to have some. How many would be ok to put into a 55 gallon tank? Is three or four ok? Do they reproduce easily and alot??? Will ramshorn get along with mystery snails? I am sorry to keep asking all these questions but you seem to know alot about fish, and you've done such a great job of answering all my other questions. Thanks again!

[rubysoho]

I'm glad to answer your questions, so don't worry about asking too many.

What can I expect as far as cloudiness goes? After it is done cycling should the water be completely clear? Should we test the water ever so often??

yes, the water will get a little cloudy, just keep up with regular water changes and you should be fine. The water will be completely clear, but to make sure, I recommend getting drip tests (not the quick sticks you dip in water) for ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, and pH. After the tank is cycled, the first three should remain undetectable and if they start showing up, it is time to do another cleaning. The pH is good to know because some fish to better in acidic water while others do better in harder water. However, NEVER use chemicals to try to raise or lower your pH (or that crappy ammonialock, it only creates more problems) because it is better to have a steady pH than a perfect one.

danios,mollys,platys,swordtails,guppies,
I'm going to suggest not keeping mollies because they really do better in a brackish tank. If you are going to add a little bit of aquarium salt (which is okay, but not necessary) then the mollies will be okay, but they are more prone to sicknesses if they aren't in brackish water.

Oh, don't forget a heater for your tank! It keeps the water temp steady and this is very good for your fish, especially because they are tropical fish (goldfish don't need a heater). Keep the temp at 75 degrees.

I was wondering if you could tell me what other fish go good with the ones i mentioned?
angelfish, south american cichlids (which angelfish are a kind of cichlid), any type or tetra, cory fish, giant danios, rainbowfish, killifish, smaller breeds of plecos (never the common pleco, they get to be over 18 inches...and plecos will need drift wood, they like to eat it), oto cats,. Anything peaceful. Be careful with bettas, they all have different temperments. Just do research on fish you are interested in to make sure they are peaceful and won't grow too big. I recommend searching for at least 3-5 sources because the internet is not always reliable. Liveaquaria.com, Planetcatfish. come and Aquariumadvice.com are ones I can recommend. (I'm on aquariumadvice)

I also have a question about aquatic snails. I think they are great and I would love to have some. How many would be ok to put into a 55 gallon tank? Is three or four ok? Do they reproduce easily and alot??? Will ramshorn get along with mystery snails?
Aquatic snails are great. They will all pretty much get along and having a few in the 55 gallon tank will be great. There are small brown snails that will sneek into your tank if you add plants, these guys are asexual and will reproduce A LOT. I don't mind them so much, but other people hate them. If you add any snails, wait until your tank has been running for a few months because they need algae to survive. Algae waffers are a good suppliment. I don't wipe off the back of my tanks so there is a natural algae source always growing in my tank. Apple snails and the rest of the big snails will reproduce, but Loaches are great for keeping populations in check, plus they have great personalities. They are a bottom dwelling fish who likes to be in schools (just like cory cats). A group of 3 or more is best, and if you stick with 3-5, you can also have cory cats. But you don't want them to be crowded.

When you are stocking your tank, remember the 1 inch of fish per gallon rule, but also take into consideration the area which your fish will occupy most. The livebearers will take up the middle area, loaches and cories are great for the bottom, and danios go everywhere. You don't want a certain area of your tank to get crowded because it will stress your fish out.

[Pippin]

For the 55 gallon tank, wip it down with a wet cloth to make sure no nasties are in it from the manufacturer.

That was a revalation for me! Lol, all my tanks other than the 29 gallon I have struggled around the sink to rinse out. When I got the 29 I hosed it down outside. I was wondering how I would ever rinse a 55 gallon if I ever got one......wet cloth, its so easy :rolleyes: . Thanks for getting me over my blonde streak :D .

So what have you decided for your stocking? Has anyone suggested cories yet? (I'm too lazy to search through all the posts :rolleyes: ) If not, a school of ten or more would be awesome in a 55. Such cute, active litttle fish with personality. I plan on getting some one day.....

[rubysoho]

Pippin, there is hope for you! I'm a blonde too ;)

[Faith79]

I am blonde as well, Lol. Rubysoho: I forgot to mention about my tiny brown snails, that yes, snuck in with my plants. Oh boy. Since there is no algae in my tank yet, will they survive???? Anyways, I guess i've decided on danios,platys, a couple cory cats, guppies and whatever else I find that I like that will get along good with my other fish. And now I have a really dumb question: How do you pronounce "cichlids"? Does it sound like "sicklids"? I asked the man I got my fish from about possibly getting some angelfish one day and he didnt seem to like that idea, he said that sometimes the angelfish could be aggressive, and that it might not work with the type fish I have and am going to get. Is that true? I have a question about the 10 gallon tank I am using now. For the first couple days I had it, it was extremely cloudy. I had the water tested and it was fine. Now it has cleared up a good bit. Throught the cycling process do you think it will become cloudy again? Thank you soooo much for answering all my questions again, you have been such a huge help.

[Ratty Lover]

I have heard that goldfish do eat the eggs and babies. I would just keep the babies in a seprate tank.

[Ratty Lover]

I have heard that goldfish will eat the babies, so I would keep them in a seperate tank.

[rubysoho]

Since there is no algae in my tank yet, will they survive???? they seemed to survive quite well in my 10 gallon that didn't have much algae. Perhaps it will keep their numbers in check... However, I never saw them as a problem because I never had to worry about overfeeding. That doesn't mean you don't have to worry about dumping food in the tank, but it gives you some leeway.

How do you pronounce "cichlids"? Does it sound like "sicklids"?
you got it!

I asked the man I got my fish from about possibly getting some angelfish one day and he didnt seem to like that idea, he said that sometimes the angelfish could be aggressive, and that it might not work with the type fish I have and am going to get.
unfortunatly this is true, but normally angelfish are not aggressive until they are fully grown. My 55 gallon tank is set up with danios, rummynosed tetras, platies, and a few other kinds of fish, but my angels leave them alone. I would be concerned if you put neons in with them because that is their natural food in the wild. Guppies...I think it is questionable. It really just comes down to the attitude of the fish. I wanted a pair of angels, so I brought home two quarter sized fish. They were very pretty, but one was very aggressive and started picking scales off the other one! So the aggressive one went straight back to the fish store. It took me two months to find another fish the same size as my angelfish (it is best to keep them with others their own size) and the one I got has an attitude, but not an aggressive one. They love swimming across the tank together and are very expressive. Right now, they are a little smaller than the palm of my hand. A full grown angelfish can reach up to 6-8 inches in leangth, not including the tail :)

I have a question about the 10 gallon tank I am using now. For the first couple days I had it, it was extremely cloudy. I had the water tested and it was fine. Now it has cleared up a good bit. Throught the cycling process do you think it will become cloudy again?
yup, cloudiness is just something that happens when starting up a new tank. it should go away within a week. Just keep up with your water changes.

[Faith79]

Thanks again for a great reply. You never leave anything out that I ask! When I bought one of my fish which is VERY pregnant, I forgot to ask the fish man what to feed the babies, once she had them. So when I was talking to him earlier I asked what I should feed them and he said that they would eat the tiny fish flakes too, and survive just fine off it. Is this true???? Or is there something else I should buy for them? As for the little brown snails...call me crazy but i wouldnt mind their reproducing(as long as it didnt get too out of hand!!) I think theyre cute! In regards to the angelfish- they are beautiful but I will probably stay away from those.

[shev]

Live bearer fry will eat crushed up prepared foods. but it is best to feed live foods like micro worms or BBS.

[rubysoho]

shev is correct. you can also do a google search on feeding fry and you should find a lot of different way to pick and choose from.

good idea staying away from angels, they are beautiful, but probably should only be housed with caution if there are guppies in the tank.

dont worry about the little brown snails, they shouldnt get too out of hand, and if they do, some smaller species of loaches will take care of the problem naturally.

[Faith79]

Well, all of my questions have been answered! Thanks again for all your help!

[rubysoho]

great! glad to help :)

[Germyzero]

Any of your fish will eat the babies. Also, why do you have goldfish in your tank, they aren't tropical fish.

[rubysoho]

if you read further, I beleive you'd see this person gave away the goldfish to a friend...that or it was another post and I am going crazy ;)

[Faith79]

Yes, the goldfish was given away.