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creativz
03-03-05, 05:28 AM 03-03-05
*Crossposted*
Thanks to Pippin & Chaos for original posts..."Well, today is the day. Some of you may know about the recent proceedings to ban this wonderful breed of dog in Ontario. Its basically a death sentence for thousands of dogs and puppies in the Ontario shelters. No one is to breed, sell, buy, or transport pit bulls. This law targets American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and any dog that LOOKS/ has the physical traits of these breeds. So basically, any well-built medium-sized block-headed dog with a snout can be targeted. And under BSL (breed specific legislation) a person is guilty until they can prove that thier dog is not a pit. People may keep their dogs that they have had for X amount of time (not sure the exact number). But they must be muzzled at all times while out in public along with other heavy regulations. Despite all the experts (humane societies, behaviorists, vets, etc) speaking out against this ridiculous ban, it was still passed. There is so much I could write about this but I won't for know. Here are some links to some excellent sites for more info:Pit Bull Forum (http://www.pitbullforum.com/index.php)
Pit Bull Rescue Central (http://www.pbrc.net/home.html)
HugABull (http://www.hugabull.com/)
And here is a link to a flash video that is simply amazing, I cry every time I watch it. Viewer discretion is advised: The Pit Bull Problem (http://www.deviantart.com/view/11454716/) Here is the official bill: Bill 132 (http://www.ontla.on.ca/documents/Bills/38_Parliament/Session1/b132_e.htm)
People are trying to get as many pit bulls out of Ontario as is possible. Search around on the pit bull forum for info on how you can help by adopting a bully, fostering one, or by making a donation to help. This is such a terrible and sad situation. The unfairness and sheer ridiculousness of BSL cannot be fully expressed with words. Will it stop at pit bulls? Is your dog next? The irresponsible and unethical people who have abused and exploited pit bulls will simply switch to a different breed of dog. Perhaps a breed that is not as obediant and people-centered as the pit bull breeds.""Its a sad sad day for ALL Ontario dog owners, because your breed could be next. You really think Michael Bryant will stop there? Rotties, GSD's, even Labradors. Your dog could be next. A lot of people are working together to get dogs out of shelters and out of Ontario. If you want to help, especially donations please contact Banned-Aid (http://www.bannedaid.com/). If you can help transport or rescue dogs from shelters please post on Pit Bull Forum (www.pitbullforum.com)
heres another slide show (http://www.kerwoodwolf.com/PitBan2.html) specifially on the Ontario ban."
Spread the word. This ban won't stop the scum who specifically breed and use Pits for dogfighting. Michael Bryant isn't dealing with "the problem" by doing this - he is fuelling it.

rubysoho
03-03-05, 05:10 PM 03-03-05
that is horrible... I wish I lived up north so I could sneak them across the boarder and find them all loving homes! When are people going to learn that is isn't the breed's fault, it is how they were trained. I use to be under the impression that these specific dogs could never be retrained, and it may still be true for the poor dogs actually trained for fighting, but I've seen Pits retrained! It was amazing. All my life I've heard people saying that once they learn a bad habit or aren't properly trained, then they should be destroyed, but it was beautiful to see someone actually retrain a pitbull...and it didn't even take all that much. Just some time and effort.

Bottoml line- people are afraid of what they don't understand.

creativz
03-04-05, 01:38 AM 03-04-05
There are, don't ya know :) Pit Bulls that don't even need "re-training" - same with all dogs, if it's done correctly by responsible owner or trainer, as it should be when dog is pup...... there is no need to retrain.

Kagome100
03-19-05, 06:05 PM 03-19-05
OH MY GOD! I started crying when I saw that slide show.... I love pits to death... I have a pit mix that is 10 years old. I love him to death....

SnowPrincess
03-20-05, 01:46 AM 03-20-05
that's terrible those poor dogs....i love my rottweilers and i'd never give them up for anything or anyone.

my dogs are completely trained and woulden't hurt anyone.
i belive the dog's behavior depends on how well the owner has trained/treated it.

people should judge them on their personality not their breeds....as a matter of fact....

i owe my life to my neighbors pitbull, when i was 12 i was walking home from school and this creepy man started following me, talking to me, being a pig, just plain being really creepy. obviously i was scared. thankfully my neighbors chained their pittbull Cookie on the front lawn. i ran up behind the her, and i guess he didn't see the dog and walked on the lawn and boy was he suprised. here comes Cookie barking wildly and scared the s*** out of him, lol. needless to say he ran away. my neighbors came out i told them what happened and he was later that week arrested by the police. i dunno what would of happened if that guy caught me but i owe my life to that dog.

sorry to tell such a looooooong story, lol!

Kagome100
03-20-05, 04:05 AM 03-20-05
That was a good story. Now I really want to know why people want to ban these dogs so much. They can be the sweetest things. My dog Buster (pit mix) saved my Mema from a fire. When he was only 6 years old my mema was out side in a storage building where we could not really see it from the house. Well we were all in the house just sitting back and watching tv. Buster started barking LOAD and I got up to see what was wrong. I did not go out the door I just looked out. Buster was jumping up and down barking looking at me than running off where the building was. I went out to see what was up. When I got there I saw smoke and my mema yelling fire. I RAN back to the house and got my papa. After that every thing went by sooooo fast. WE got are mema out and the fire stoped... If it was not for Buster she would be dead today........... My dog Buster has 75% pit in him, so he is more pit than the other dog in him. And you know what. Buster picked me as his owner I did not even pick him. I was at a pets mart where they had some dogs for sale. I just walked by looking at them. Buster jumped on me. He did not want to leave me. THAN latter on my mom and dad came by me and said you want this dog. I said which one and they said that one. I saw they were looking at buster and I said YES... SO Buster picked me as his owner......

SnowPrincess
03-20-05, 04:13 AM 03-20-05
wow, i'm glad your mema is alright! and i'm glad Buster was outside at the time. that's why dog's are just so great!

i'm still grateful for Cookie, even though she's really old now. she's still a sweetie. and what's really funny is Cookie is normally very good with strangers and she very rarely barks at all. but, when that guy came up to me she seemed like she was going to rip him to shreds. even my neighbor was like "wow!".....odd isn't it?

i guess dog's just seem to know when people they care for are in danger.

Kagome100
03-20-05, 06:08 AM 03-20-05
Ya my mom, dad, papa, mema, and me were like "WOW" at Buster when he did that. He is a out door dog BUT gets lots of love any way. He is 10 not but still a loving dog.

I guess all so about the danger thing. I do think dogs know when there owners or owners friends are in danger.

Fash
04-09-05, 06:25 PM 04-09-05
I've never owned a pit-bull, but that video definetely put a lump in my throat.

I'm sad to say that all my experiences with pitt's have been bad. I guess I'm unfortunatley one of those people who have yet to meet a friendly one. I hear people who own them say they are very loving, friendly dogs. I guess I just wish I could see that.

I know people say that it depends on the owner and how they are brought up and treated, but that doesn't say anything for some stories I've heard on the news. Particularly one about a family who bought a pitt-bull pup from a respected breeder. Both the parents were quite friendly. The husband and wife had a baby at that time, and the baby and the puppy grew up together for a few years. The family treated the pup with nothing but unconditional love, and one day a few years later, for no apparent reason at all, the now full-grown pitbull attacked the five year old child and tore half it's face off. The child had been playing by itself in the sandbox.

I'm not saying ALL pitt-bulls are terrible dogs, not at all. It's just the image I've had because almost every one I've met has growled at me, and I hear so many stories about them attacking people.

creativz
04-12-05, 05:09 AM 04-12-05
Like all dogs, Pits need to be trained well. All dogs need to know their limits, by learning who's boss. Most dogs sense fear in people and quite often, will use it to their advantage in some way. Any dog is in their element and can also be quite unpredictable, if allowed to dominate uncertain situations.

satine
04-14-05, 08:03 AM 04-14-05
this really anyos me..
i mean they want o stop racism and predujuce but i mean is int this a bad example. they say we should judge people by their contents of their hearts . but they ae willing to kill all pitballs because they are pitballs. isnt that like racism? grr

lofty
04-14-05, 04:29 PM 04-14-05
this really anyos me..
i mean they want o stop racism and predujuce but i mean is int this a bad example. they say we should judge people by their contents of their hearts . but they ae willing to kill all pitballs because they are pitballs. isnt that like racism? grr



Yeh you are very right there

Bullybreedgirl
04-21-05, 05:41 AM 04-21-05
Hello, I live in Ontario, and I have a pitty and an AmStaff, and the AmStaff is a rescue from Advocates for the Underdog. I believe this ban is just the begining of banning breeds, I also have a rotti, and I know they will be next. The worst part about this is that all the experts spoke out against this and yet they still go ahead with it. I don't see how this can happen. My dogs are friendly not ever have I seen any aggression from them. I am sickened by this and I have already donated $100 dollars to the legal fund, Clayton Ruby is the lawyer fighting this, he is tough too.

I am keeping my fingers crossed that we win. I have BSL tshirts from the Dog legislation council of canada, and I have two on the way from Advocates for the Underdog. All the money goes to Clayton Ruby. If you visit www.advocatesfortheunderdog.com you can see the shirts they have.

Killing is never a solution, specially killing innocent animals with no prior bite incidents..I dont know whats happening here.. :mad:

muca
04-23-05, 05:31 PM 04-23-05
I'm not an advocate of banning any type of dog breed. My aunt has a pit that is just as sweet (if not more) than a retriever, but my cousin doesn't want her son around the dog due to all the bad stigma about them attacking people. It's just like saying certain types of people are worse than others, you can't judge a book by it's cover. Just because one or a few members of a breed (or species) are bad eggs doesn't mean they all are.

muca
04-23-05, 05:35 PM 04-23-05
Though, I am kinda getting tired of seeing pits everywhere. If you ever want to visit the pitbull capital of the world, visit Detroit, Michigan USA!!!!!!!!! Pit Bulls will NEVER be banned from here, and it's right next to Canada, so we can walk them around the border and get those beaurocrats all unhappy ;)

Bullybreedgirl
04-24-05, 06:46 AM 04-24-05
Pit bull capital of canada seems to be where I am, I don't have a problem with it, I have 2 pits and a rotti, (one of my pits is actually an amstaff, basicly a pit to everyone else.) But it seems everyone here has a pitty, but I have actually seen some older people with them, like this really sweet lady with her beautifull white pitty I saw at the vets office, we were getting all our dogs pics with Santa. Actually the vets office we were at had to make a public appology because she had said that this is like the holocost over here, what she was saying is that killing is not right basicly, and she had to appologize, it is doggy racism. I wish we would focus on the real problems, like guns and murderers we keep letting out back on the streets..