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The animal gurl
02-23-03, 11:48 AM 02-23-03
Well I really want a horse and I know how to care and feed and do everything!!! And since it would be my first horse it would have to have a good tempermant. Since I am only 11 it would have to be easy to handle too. So does anyone recomend any breeds??? PLease that would be a great help if I can convince my parents.


Thanks,
Gianna:D

Shemmyboy
02-25-03, 12:13 PM 02-25-03
I'm 11 too!!!! I would reccomend an arabian or a thoroughbred. they are great versitale horses. Do you ride english or western? I ride english and i love jumping. So does my pony. what do you like???
~~Shemmyboy(girl)~~:D :bat:

lovechick
02-25-03, 12:51 PM 02-25-03
I heard that both throughbreds and arabians are too lively and active for inexperienced horse owner, even if you know how to take care of horses, not necesarilly means u know how to handle them, besides those breeds need special care, unlike some other ussual kind. I would go with cob or appalosa, theyre great all-rounders and very calm too. But there are plenty of other breeds to go with, you might wanna talk to someone whos a horse expert.

Good Luck!:angel2:

Shemmyboy
02-25-03, 02:20 PM 02-25-03
not if the TB or arab is 24 years old!

The animal gurl
02-25-03, 04:24 PM 02-25-03
Yes I love english too! And jumping. I have also heard that thoroghbreds are hard to keep too:tdown:. And my aunt (owns a horse barn) said that she had arabians there and they were great for the first-second year then they turned and were big fat brats!?!?!? Thanks for helping... I think lol:D


Thanks For the Help!,
Gianna:D :D :agree:

The animal gurl
02-25-03, 04:25 PM 02-25-03
Oh ya true about the age but I want a horse that will last me a while..not die that soon:bawling: .





Gianna

Nevertoomany
02-26-03, 03:06 PM 02-26-03
here we go again.

Arabians are wonderful first horses.

They will take care of you and do anything you would like.

They are neither flightly or hard to handle.

HOWEVER

If you treat them as though you are the boss and they have to do your bidding then you will not get along with them..
They are extra sensitive and respond in kind.

If they are abused they will get you no matter how long it takes.


In answer to your question about breeds.

Without knowing what you want to do that can't be answered

You ride english you stated.

Me too -- but then I ride 3 styles of english -- do you ride hunt seat , saddle seat or balance seat, or perhaps side saddle --- theses are all forms of endglish riding.

I suggest you join 4--H and learn about confirmation prior to getting any type of hourse.

Beat to look for one that will do what you like to do and worry less about it's breed unless you intend to show.

Then you get a horse of the breed you want to show that suits your needs.

At 11 you are too young to have your own UNLESS your parents are into horses too.

You have a LOT more to learn before you can make any type of informed decision.

PyscoFalcon
02-27-03, 04:07 AM 02-27-03
What do you mean by "do you ride hunt seat , saddle seat or balance seat"

A lot of us in the UK don't understand what you mean.

The main disaplines over here are :-
Showjumping
Cross Country
Dressage

We also go ing, play polo, endurance etc. So please can you explain what you mean by saddle seat and hunt seat.

MagnoliaFly
02-27-03, 04:57 AM 02-27-03
I think what they meant was hunt seat (usually used in hunters/jumpers) and saddle seat is always on gaited horses (I've never heard it being used otherwise) not sure about balanced seat unless you mean dressage. I've ridden english for a while also and that threw me for a minute.
I wouldnt expect a young girl to get into side saddle unless that was a popular thing in their town and had a good trainer for it. I've read alot on side saddle riding and wouldnt expect a young girl to get started in it until much later in life. Thats just me talking though.
Psycho your right, the main disciplines over here are the same in english. We americans arnt too far off the mark!

My trainer mentioned to me once that in the UK children start jumping around 2' - 3' in the beginning, is this true? I heard that and got scared out of my wits (although it would impress me if the UK children were pushed at a higher standard than us)

PyscoFalcon
02-27-03, 06:18 AM 02-27-03
Hunting is hardly done anymore and jumping is the same style as cross cuntry really.

We basically use 1 saddle but lift our butts off the seat more in jumping.

When learning to jump we start with trotting poles and cavalitti. By the time you've being jumping weekly for a year your expected to be able to jump a 3'6" course.

PyscoFalcon
02-27-03, 06:21 AM 02-27-03
Here's me jumping someones horse a few years after my accident. It's only a small jump to regain my confidance.
http://www.pyroport.com/pyscoanimals/Animalwebby/Horses/JumpingThorughbred.jpg

MagnoliaFly
02-27-03, 06:48 AM 02-27-03
See, I took lessons for about 3 years (starting as a beginner in english) and only got up to 2' courses (I know its sad). I think I was more interested in learning techniques and how to handle/train horses than compete. Now that I'm in college AND working full time I dont have time to do lessons anymore but my love for horses continues. I'm going to the American Budweiser Invitational in Tampa Florida this year (my second time) and to a 3 day event in my town. I love to watch.

PyscoFalcon
02-28-03, 03:30 AM 02-28-03
I didn't want to compete in showjumping - the courses are just too difficult. I mean you should see the size of the fences at Badminton - some are 6 foot!

MagnoliaFly
02-28-03, 04:46 AM 02-28-03
I've heard! That would scare me to death just standing in front of it.

I got started way late in my lessons w/ english jumping so I think that attributed to my being afraid of jumping all the time. I've decided to go the dressage route when I get out of college and have time for another sport to persue. I've heard its a major confidence builder, and I had to do some of the basic movements in jumping and enjoyed it.

MagnoliaFly
02-28-03, 04:52 AM 02-28-03
http://www.nettally.com/svickery/katie/images/WteXGood.jpg

http://www.nettally.com/svickery/katie/images/FenceGood.jpg

Here are a few pics of me jumping. These were taken some time ago before I moved to 2'

PyscoFalcon
02-28-03, 11:06 AM 02-28-03
Not bad at all :D

Just need to crouch a bit lower and stick your bum out more.

As I can't jump anymore due to injury I'm doing Dressage and hopefully learn classical high school.

It's so much comfortable and you can go at your own pace. It's amazing what you and your horse can do together.

MagnoliaFly
02-28-03, 12:00 PM 02-28-03
That was taken way before my trainer had me work on my two-point. I had this awful habit of sticking my fingers out to brace myself instead of curling them up in a fist, my trainer said that was so dangerous because if the horse bucked up it could break a finger. I had to stop that too. I wish I had pictures of me before I quit - I was so pretty!
Maybe one day I can take a vacation to England or Ireland to do nothing but work on my jumping or dressage. That would be so much fun!

PyscoFalcon
02-28-03, 12:43 PM 02-28-03
Hard work too!

The best place to go is the Yorkshie Riding Center - home of the Bartles! Really good but expensive.

MagnoliaFly
02-28-03, 12:47 PM 02-28-03
I can just imagine how tough the english trainers are- they'd probably bring me to tears.
My trainer used to yell at me but I've heard english trainers are alot tougher.

Until then I think I'll stick with teaching my rabbit to show jump. I'm going to order him some jump standards to get started with (you use the same ones for dogs). I know they have shows in the UK for rabbit show jumping but I've got to see if they have any in the US. At any rate, I can make it on David Letterman's Stupid Pet Trick show.

PyscoFalcon
02-28-03, 03:10 PM 02-28-03
LOL sounds like fun.

I know - I had a showjumping hamster.
She was called kami and loved her jumping that much she won a rosette.
http://www.pyroport.com/pyscoanimals/Animalwebby/Sadlymissed Pets/Kamijump.jpg

When I get my dog I'll teach it agilaty.

Once my instructer wouldn't let me ride until I walked around the arena in all positions and had a good strech out - it wasn't me but my new jods that was throwing my position off.

SacredWarGirl23
03-02-03, 07:59 AM 03-02-03
Hey!
Arabians are very great animals. They are not mean like alot of people say. I think that Paso Finos, Morgans, and QH's are very good horses too. They ususally have wonderful temperments and great dispostions. Alot of horses are good horses, but quite a few have spirit, which is good. I think all horses need heart. If the horse has heart your in! So do you plan to do any kind of showing with your horse?
Talk to you later
~Haley~

Shemmyboy
03-02-03, 10:40 AM 03-02-03
Can qhs jump and compete in jumping? or do they not excel in this and need some thing else to do.
please answer!
shemmyboy:angel2: :bat:

Nevertoomany
03-02-03, 11:32 AM 03-02-03
It isn't that simple

You have to learn about confirmation.

And legs -- does the horse have any leg faults that would prevent it form jumping safely.

And then there is attitude -- some horses don't like to jump.

You need to start with confirmaion --- go to the 4H office or a library and learn about confirmation. This will tell you more about what a horse is able to do than anything elce.

Knowledge is an important thing when you are dealing with a life. Your mistake can hurt you and your animal.

Slope of shoulder, length of stride, head set ( where the head comes out of the neck), how your horse stands in the rear -- over or under --- is your horse rear end propelled or front end --- all these things are important and if you can't answer them you shouldn't be thinking about starting a horse.

tainted
03-02-03, 02:45 PM 03-02-03
Originally posted by Shemmyboy
Can qhs jump and compete in jumping? or do they not excel in this and need some thing else to do.
please answer!
shemmyboy:angel2: :bat:
they can jump, u just need to find one that will be good at jumping.. don't get a barrel horse and try and get it to jump is all

i totaly recomend QH's and paints.. they are so versatile, and beautifully put together.. they can do anything u want, from dressage to cutting, and look absolutly beautiful doing it

SacredWarGirl23
03-02-03, 04:48 PM 03-02-03
Yes, QH's can jump. The are very able to do many things. They may look like huge horses that are not capable of anything but some are some of the best jumpers and show horses. QH's excel at many thing. I think that Andalusians make the best dressage horses, but that's my opinion.
To look at some QH's go to peaceriverranch.com to look at a huge QH. I'm not sure if he is a show horse thou. It will say on the website. Also go to www.RichNChocolatey.com and you will see a QH that excels in many things.
Hope this helped!
~Haley~

tainted
03-02-03, 06:07 PM 03-02-03
Originally posted by The animal gurl
Yes I love english too! And jumping. I have also heard that thoroghbreds are hard to keep too:tdown:. And my aunt (owns a horse barn) said that she had arabians there and they were great for the first-second year then they turned and were big fat brats!?!?!? Thanks for helping... I think lol:D


Thanks For the Help!,
Gianna:D :D :agree:

ok, the fact that the arabians in her barn turned into brats has NOTHING to do with their breed. any horse will turn into a brat if u let it.

oh and SacredWarGirl23 QH's aren't huge horses, some can be big, but they aren't huge as a breed

SacredWarGirl23
03-02-03, 07:30 PM 03-02-03
I know that they aren't huge but they look very large because they have so much muscle. Huge horses are shires.

Shemmyboy
03-03-03, 06:40 AM 03-03-03
Nevertoomany,
I am a full time team member in the Montgomery County Horse Judjing Team. In the State judjing competition I placed 10th(better than my friend, who didn't place at all). I love horse judjing even though it is EXTREMELY stress provoking. That is some very good info, though. Pass that on to some of the begginners here.
Shemmyboy:angel2:

Shemmyboy
03-03-03, 06:42 AM 03-03-03
QH's also have big butts!!!!:D :D :D :D :agree:
:angel2:

tainted
03-03-03, 06:46 PM 03-03-03
no they are muscley..!!!
rawr...
ok u know who have big (CUTE) butts, are icelandic's, sindri's ass is soo cute..

omg i want a belgiun they are so huge (ok i know spelt it wrong, but i don't care) to ride around my yard... i've been begging my dad for ages.. but i think i will have to wait

Shemmyboy
03-03-03, 07:39 PM 03-03-03
i know olot of belgians....where excactly are you?:angel2: :bat:

MagnoliaFly
03-04-03, 05:03 AM 03-04-03
Its amazing how tainted whats a belgian horse yet has the ability to kill cats with her own hands without a problem. If you cant be a responsible cat owner how can you be a responsible horse owner?

RottyMommy
03-04-03, 12:26 PM 03-04-03
for everyone tainted is a troll ignore her posts and if they are problematic report it to the moderators they will get rid of her eventually.

Ballydoyle
05-20-03, 11:07 AM 05-20-03
I think a quarter horse would be a great decision for a first horse. they are versatile, athletic, generally sweet, and just make great first horses. i would recommend one around atleast 12 or so years of age until further experience. i mean, i am sure you are experienced with horses, but it is completely different when you own one. good luck!
Taylor