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din
11-28-00, 06:53 AM 11-28-00
He paid $350 for pet to be cremated, but got this instead

http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/local/images/2804b.jpg It was supposed to be a dignified final gesture for a pet dog.

A beloved campanion which had been part of the family for the last 10 years.

That's why Mr Edmund Ong, 23, a sales executive, paid $350 to the James Tan Veterinary Hospital - to give Doggie a solemn cremation.

But what Mr Ong didn't know till later was that Doggie's carcass was instead incinerated over mesh wire and two hot stoves.

The shocking, barbecue-like, cremation was done in an open courtyard behind the veterinary hospital.

Said Mr Ong: "It makes my blood boil." Because he had paid for a decent cremation - not this.

The vet has since offered him compensation of 10 times what he paid, plus a written apology. (See letter, above.)

It all started when Mr Ong's mixed breed fell ill late last year.

The 10-year-old dog was easily breathless and lethargic, with a poor appetite.

Said Mr Ong: "When I took Doggie to Dr James Tan, the doctor said he was suffering from heart murmur. Dr Tan gave him some medicine and sent him home. He recovered after that."

A few months later, Doggie had a relapse.

The concerned owner rushed his pet to the hospital in the middle of the night.

He said: "Doggie's condition looked pretty bad. He seemed to be gasping for breath and his gums had turned white. Dr James Tan said that it was highly unlikely he would survive the night."

But Doggie did make it through that night and was taken home the next day.

Said Mr Ong: "The morning after he was brought home, he suffered another attack. He was breathless and suddenly collapsed in the living room.

"His body lay limp on the floor and his muscles were all knotted and stiff. I knew that he was gone."

In despair, Mr Ong rushed Doggie to the vet, but it was too late for his beloved pet.

On Sept 28, Doggie lost his last battle.

Said Mr Ong: "I couldn't save my dog. He was dead on arrival at the hospital. The last thing I could do for him was to arrange a decent cremation."

He paid the hospital $350 for an individual cremation, and another $400 to have his pet's ashes housed at the hospital crematorium.

"I was told that I couldn't watch my dog's body being incinerated, and I was asked to collect the ashes two days later," he said.

But a day after he had placed Doggie's ashes at the hospital's crematorium, he received a phone call.

"An ex-classmate, who was then working at the hospital, told me that Doggie had not been properly cremated.

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FIERY END: The open courtyard where animal carcasses were cremated, and what's left of an incinerated animal in the courtyard.

"He told me that his body had been burnt on a stove outdoors in an undignified way. It was like he was burnt on a makeshift barbecue-like pit."

Enraged, he called Dr James Tan and demanded to know the truth.

"Dr Tan told me that he would check and call me back by 2pm."

When the vet didn't, Mr Ong called again that afternoon.

"This time, he admitted that my dog had been cremated in an open compound over a stove. I was so angry.

"I demanded to know what he was going to do to settle the problem, and he asked me to go to the hospital to talk things through."

That afternoon, at 3.30pm, Mr Ong saw the tiny courtyard where Doggie was turned into ashes.

The New Paper contacted Mr Ong after learning about the incident from another person.

Dr Tan offered Mr Ong compensation of $7,500 - 10 times what he had paid the hospital - and a letter of apology. Mr Ong has accepted the compensation.

In the letter, Dr Tan apologised for cremating Doggie on an open fire in the hospital compound without proper equipment.

Dr Tan also promised not to cremate any more animals the same way.

Said Mr Ong: "It's really not about the money.

"Doggie wasn't just a dog to me, he was like a son. He was my first pet and will be my last."

Vet says: My own animal was also burnt like that...

FACED with Mr Ong's case, Dr James Tan answered every query from The New Paper calmly.

Yes, I had burnt dead animals over a stove, the 61-year-old veterinarian replied.

Does he know that it is illegal? "Yes," he answered.

Said Dr Tan: "Previously, someone did it for us and he sent the dead animals away. But he's no longer doing it.

"So we thought, for small animals, just put it on the fire and burn it away."

He doesn't regard what was done to Doggie as extraordinary.

"So what? My own animal was also burnt like that," he explained.

"There's nothing wrong with that... Actually, doing it is nothing. Just put a grill there, put the thing on the fire and burn.

"Put it in a crematorium in a box, fire burns it. You do it barbecue-style, fire also burns it.

"You know how small a hamster is? So small, you still want to put it in a big crematorium?"

Dr Tan said that officers from the Ministry of the Environment were alerted about the hospital's method of cremation of animals last month.

An officer inspected the premises just last week and he was given a warning not to do it again, added Dr Tan.

"I promised the officer that I would have nothing more to do with this, even burning small animals like tortoises. I don't want to do it any more.

"I do not like it, frankly speaking. And now, I make it a point - that I won't do it any more."

When I asked to view the premises, Dr Tan offered to show me around.

The courtyard was clean. I saw two stoves stacked neatly on a barbecue pit at the side of the yard.

And there was no sign of charring on the grey cement floor.

Vets must follow a code

We asked the Environment Ministry these questions:

Dr Tan provides a cremation and burial service for pets. But allegations have been made that he cremates the pets by burning the carcasses over an open fire in the courtyard of his hospital.

Is this illegal? What are the legal and ethical guidelines for burning of animal carcasses? If found guilty, what is the penalty for illegal cremation of pets?

Dr Tan claims that an Environment Ministry officer visited the premises twice, once last month, and once last week, and he was let off with a warning. Is this true?

ENV: Open burning of dead animals is prohibited. ENV will investigate the complaint.

We have advised those living in landed property that they can put the dead pet in a strong opaque plastic bag, tie up the bag securely, and leave it out in the bin in front of their house for collection by the public waste collector serving their estate. For HDB dwellers, they are advised to deposit the bagged dead pet in the nearby bin centre. The public has also been advised to seek the services of private animal crematoria if they find it hard to do the above.

What the Agri-food and Veterinary Authority of Singapore (AVA) says Dr Tan provides a cremation and burial service for pets. If the allegations against him are proven, what action will be taken against Dr Tan?

Vets are licensed by AVA to treat, vaccinate and inoculate animals and birds. They are also required to uphold their professional conduct in accordance with the Code of Ethics for Veterinarians. Vets who are found to have violated the licensing conditions or Code of Ethics are liable to sanctions or penalty as determined by the AVA, or Singapore Veterinary Association.

COMPLAINTS

THREE employees at the veterinary hospital told The New Paper that Dr Tan also used expired medicine and left-over anaesthetic from earlier surgeries to put new animal patients to sleep.

Dr Tan acknowledged both complaints, though he insisted that he has never used expired drugs intentionally.


EXPIRED DRUGS:
Showing me his drug cabinet, Dr Tan said: "It's not like they expire on that very day, making them unusable the next day. They always have some allowance - six months or one year.

"But of course it's not that we deliberately want to make use of these drugs. Sometimes, we simply overlook the expiry date...

"We remove some of the drugs that have expired... but when it comes in a box all sealed up, we don't go and check every single bottle in it.

"Then you open it up, after maybe six months or so, the drugs might be left with only two months. So how? Can't help it, got to quickly use it up."

But he said that he would get his staff to check the stocks regularly from now on.


LEFTOVER ANAESTHETIC:
Does he use leftover anaesthetic to put animals to sleep?

"If an animal is to be put down in front of the client, we always have the anaesthetic bottle there, and we use fresh anaesthetic."

Pulling out a used syringe, half-filled with a translucent blue liquid, he continued: "All this is nice and clean... I don't need so much. The remaining, I keep it.

"The next time another dog needs to be put down, I personally see that there's nothing wrong with using this one rather than letting it go to waste."

Extract from : The Eletric New Paper

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din
11-28-00, 06:56 AM 11-28-00
I was fuming during and after reading this article. And am still fuming now.

How could this vet do such a thing? http://petshub.com/ubb/mad.gif

Heinz57
11-28-00, 12:23 PM 11-28-00
This "vet" is a scam artist! Pure and simple. One that should have his license revoked, provided he got one legally in the first place. Sounds like this guy gave Doggie ineffective medication because of the expiration dates, has the dog come back over and over again, which he probably gladly charged the owner for visits and medication. Then when Doggie has died, charges an extra US350.00 taking advantage of the owners grief and then sticks it to Doggies owner again.

This "vet" has no honor and no shame in what he does.

Lola
11-30-00, 02:08 PM 11-30-00
This is outrageous!!! I certainly hope this didn't happen in the U.S. He should lose his license immediately. And please don't say you will never have another "Doggie," they bring so much joy to our lives. I know how you feel, as I have lost a beloved toy poodle, and also swore I would never go through that kind of pain again. But several years later, I gave in to my husbands pleas for another poodle, and she is so much company. I dread the inevitable day that I know will probably come, but am enjoying her so much right now. God Bless you, and our thoughts are with you in your pain.

Debbi64
11-30-00, 03:47 PM 11-30-00
Oh My Goodness!

May the above account serve us TODAY, to take into consideration NOW how we NEED our pets to leave us, when the time comes!

Presently, we have two poodles at Hartsdale Canine Cemetary...should cremation be considered, there will be enough room for not only our present poodle and former stray kitty - but also for US!!!! It's legal!!!

Our "babies" have perpetual care and perpetual flower care . . . meaning they will never be dug up and 3 times a year fresh flowers are placed there!

About 5 years ago, we had a headstone engraved with their names (not ours), their dates, with the words: We were here for your forever!

Because of the above, Saturday when we visit the Vet for a heartworm test, we will certainly ask him about HIS Cremation Policies, etc.!

Hopefully, the above owner will find some peace in knowing that his story is teaching us all to be more aware for those we LOVE!!!

Oh My Goodness!!!!
Debbi

pinkie
12-01-00, 12:12 AM 12-01-00
Oh my god! i couldn't believe what the vet has done to the dog. It is too cruel and inhuman.

Take care and God bless.

My sincere condolences.

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pinkie...

brandy
12-03-00, 07:26 PM 12-03-00
He calls himself a vet? NOT. I cannot believe someone would call themself a vet and do this to animals!

coolferret
06-28-05, 06:29 PM 06-28-05
You know that just pisses me off, sorry for the laungage but that is horrible, it is so hard to say what i feel right now i am so mad.
AJ

head
06-28-05, 06:43 PM 06-28-05
where was this article derived from. all of the veterinarians in canada use specialized private creamatorium services where specific requests can be made concerning cremation. the exception is if the owners decide to provide services themselves (*bury* although we pretend to avoid this since buring animals is also illegal in most areas)

Spudnik
06-29-05, 12:25 PM 06-29-05
I doubt you'll get an answer... look at the date of the original post. :rolleyes:

lilstrawberry
12-04-05, 06:38 AM 12-04-05
my computer won't let me see the photos what are they of?

lilstrawberry
12-04-05, 06:53 AM 12-04-05
either way though, what was said in that report really made me fume. it is outrageous, and yet the supposed "vet" implies that he has done nothing wrong. i think that "it pisses me off" is too mild. it really is undescribable what that person has done. all i can say is, at least doggie and all the other animals were in better places when they were burnt on that stove.

lilstrawberry
12-04-05, 06:53 AM 12-04-05
actually, there is another topic: do pets go to heaven?

Nezumi
12-04-05, 08:28 AM 12-04-05
Thats horrible! How can someone do that? And call himself a vet!?! That made me angry. I can't believe that.

maryjane238
12-05-05, 12:49 PM 12-05-05
Well the vet was obviously wrong for taking the man's money and not providing the proper type of cremation. I guess he didn't want to shell out the money for a crematorium so he figured this was cheaper and just as good.
I know I'll be VERY unpopular for saying this but I don't really see the problem other than that. I mean, I don't get the obsession that people have with their dead bodies. I know it is traumatic to the owner of the dog....but is it really anymore traumatic that the dog being stuffed in a freezer for a day or two then put in a van, driven to a crematorium and shoved into a fire? Not really. The vet was wrong because he was ripping the guy off. Cremation isn't a pretty process no matter how it is done, though.
We don't sell expired drugs at my hospital because it is illegal. We do, however, use them on our own pets if they need them. Like it was said in the article, drugs don't expire on the date on the label. It's not like a carton of milk.
But, the vet was definitely being very greedy and dishonest...no argument there.

mallyrk
12-05-05, 01:55 PM 12-05-05
Oh my gosh!!
THats horrible..

I just had two of my snakes sent off to be cremated... (see post "had a bad weekend" in the snake forum)

I'm worried now :(

Ratty Lover
12-05-05, 06:17 PM 12-05-05
My Goodness!

Thats horrible. Wouldn't you hate to hear that your animal got cremated Barbaque style?! Thats ridiculous!

Molly

BearPaw
12-05-05, 07:14 PM 12-05-05
Mallyrk, I wouldn't worry. There are alot of laws in the US concerning dead animals. I'm sure that they will get the best there is. I guarente they won't end up like that dog. Don't worry!!!