Silky Terrier for Adoption

[Blacklady]

Looking for sincere dog lover to adopt a 2 & 1/2 year old pure healthy Grayish Black Male SIlky Terrier. Preferably staying in landed property.

Due to a new born baby in the family therefore we are unable to keep any pets in the house.

Interested parties please call me as soon as possible at 94504474.

Regards,
Jennifer

[raquel]

hi jennifer,
i'm interested in adopting yr silky terrier. i'm an enthusiastic dog lover, & i especially love terriers & toy dogs. i've had dogs since young but the last dog i kept was abt 4yrs back. i have been looking to adopt another dog, a small personal pet instead of a family dog. i live in a pte estate so there will be lots of space for the dog to roam abt. i'm currently a uni student, but i spend only the minimal time in school- abt 3-4hrs a day. i have actally been planning to buy a terrier, but they're pretty costly for a student, so...
if u r still intending to find a gd home for yr dog, i believe that i can help. i really love dogs so i will be able to provide a great amt of TLC in a wonderful environment for yr dog.
pls contat me at 98359785 asap.
thanx!!

[Blacklady]

Dear Raquel,

Tried calling you but you didn't pick up the phone. Kindly call my mobile and we can further discuss.

Regards,
Jennifer

[Ridgie]

Is this the father of the pups you recently had? Just out of curiousity why does having a baby mean you can not have dogs in the house?

I'll never understand why people have dogs, only to give them up later because people are having a baby, are dogs not a part of ones family?? http://petshub.com/ubb/frown.gif How heartbreaking for the dog to be up rooted from the only home it knows and placed with a stranger. http://petshub.com/ubb/frown.gif I sure could NOT do that to my dog.

[Blacklady]

Nope it's not the father. This is my colleague's dog and I'm just doing a favour to post it on the net for her. Thanks for your concern.

[raquel]

dear jennifer,
hi again. sorry 4 not picking up. i was in fact with SPARKY!! - brought him 4 a walk. http://petshub.com/ubb/smile.gif he's a cool dog. quite obedient. he's also very responsive & loving. i'm very surprised that he took to me so easily... http://petshub.com/ubb/redface.gif by the way, i 4got to ask some stuff,... like what other food can he eat, what goodies he likes, & very impt, is he house trained? does he only go outdoors, or does he do it anywhere? did u like pamper him a lot, so he is, as a result, more of a house pet... i'm asking this cos i like to take him for long walks... is it ok?? also, where did he use to sleep? i'm wondering if i should get him his own kennel to sleep in, or if a basket & a comfy blanket is a better idea... what do u think/suggest?
oh yah, one more thing,... is he still..erm.. looking 4 a mate.. again?? he seems to keep trying to rub himself there, against my legs... is there anything i should do?
what else do u wanna talk abt? i'll try calling u in the morning.. but if u r busy, maybe u can call me whenever u r free. i also need to confirm with u abt the medicine, i.e.timings & procedure... just to make sure. :confused


thanx!!
p/s: SPARKY is really wonderful... i'm really glad he's around me. http://petshub.com/ubb/biggrin.gif thanx again.

[raquel]

oops!! sorry, wrong channel... hehee
dun think it was u who called. tot it was... nvm, i need to ask u some stuff, so i'll probably call u at ard 10am. hope it's ok... http://petshub.com/ubb/smile.gif
thanx.

[brandy pup]

http://www.wonderpuppy.net/canwehelp/
http://www.dogmanners.com/Yournew.htm

http://members.tripod.com/~Marge_S_2/nonframes/Am_I_Ready.htm

sad since pets are supposed to be like children, maybe these links can help.

[Ridgie]

It's great that your collegue has someone like you to help them out.
However the new owner was given a dog without being told all this information before hand?????????? If that dog is not fixed I would do it asap.

[Blacklady]

Dear Rachel,

Of course you can call me anytime. Anyway, I do not wish to continue any messages here due to the reason being that someone is trying to irritate me with his 'overwelming' concern which I believe you should know better than them how much information I have advised you and that I did not 'dump' sparky to you and leave immediately.

My mobile is available anytime for you Rachel. And oh yah... if that 'overwelming' someone thinks that he can fix the questions that you ask coz he knows Sparky better than anyone, please feel free to advise Rachel.

Regards,
Jenn

[Ridgie]

This "someone" did not ever say I knew the dog better, remember this is a public forum and when I see a new dog owner asking such basic questions it makes me wonder. I know a responsible breeder would take the time to discuss such simple things as feeding, exercise, and crating etc. with a perspective new family. I can assure you that no dog has ever left my house without a complete application(questions to get specific answers) and after I have spent a few hours determining whether these people meet my qualifications of a loving pet owner.

I am only looking out for the concern of the dog whenever I make any comment(spend sometime with rescues and you will know why).

Whether this dog was yours originally or not YOU have taken the responsibility of placing the dog into your own hands. Is there something wrong with giving out as much information as you have to help a new dog owner care for her dog, not after she has the dog but before????? I seem to recall you Blacklady bred dogs recently so you should know something about giving dogs new families.

This is a public forum where people come to get educated thus preventing nasty things happening to good animals. So if this is "overwhelming concern" and "irritating" maybe this will help you understand why I asked the questions I did.
Ridgie

[SUNMAN30]

Dear Ridgie , after reading your reply to Blacklady ,i found that some of your statements seems untrue.

Correct me if i am wrong ,
you said
"How heartbreaking for the dog to be up rooted from the only home it knows and placed with a stranger. I sure could NOT do that to my dog."
But then you said
"I can assure you that no dog has ever left my house without a complete application."

Are you saying you ever give up your dog to others????.But then again you memtioned that you wouldnt give up your dog to others?

If this is true , who are you to judge others if your yourself cant even keep your own words.

regards
onelight

[Blacklady]

Dear Ridgie,

Once again, thank you very much for your concern and I thank you on behalf of Sparky too. Maybe you should check with Rachel whether or not have I fed her with information before, during and even after the process. It is not nice of you to jump into conclusion to judge me just like that without knowing the whole truth. If you have any doubts with my words, please DO NOT hesitate to clarify with Rachel.

Regards.

[Ridgie]

Hi Sunman I should clarify first I am a breeder and work with rescue that is what I meant about letting dogs(puppies/rescues) go. I was taking about responsible breeders. (My first post said my dog) My adult dogs I keep, they are not given up under any circumstances, sorry I was not clear on that.

And Blacklady I responded becuase Raquel(or is it Rachel???) had asked you some basic questions about this dog she already had in her possession. It did not seem if she was given enough information, by the questions she was asking, thats all. I try not to assume anything about anyone, I just read her 2nd post once as had the dog already. I'm sure you have told her everything she needs to know now. I am just glad you have provided her with this information.
I apologize as my genuine love for all dogs tend to get the better of me sometime and I have a tendancy to respond. I'm sure Raquel will make a wonderful mom and the dog is in great hands. :-)

[SUNMAN30]

Hi Ridgie , thank you very much for your explanation.Now i see the picture more clearly.

So therefore i guess you must have made many hush accusation against Blacklady and Raquel without even understanding their position or situation and at the same time you didnt even state your position correctly huh.

Anyway , please control your "genuine love for all dogs tend to get the better of me" remark to yourself.

regards

[raquel]

TO RIDGIE:
every dog owner will definitely have feelings for the dog. yes, blacklady had her reasons for doing so. she brought me the dog & it is living happily with me. i have had dogs for many, many years... & unlike u, none of them have ever left my hm, willingly or not. i have given all my dogs all my TLC & whatever happens to SPARKY is between blacklady & me. if both of us were as immoral as u seem to be assuming, she would have sold the dog to me, & i would've just gotten a dog from a pet shop... & no, i did not adopt SPARKY cos he was free!! & anyway, i don't think u r in a position to judge... even if i do ask questions, it's out of concern & to make sure i'm doing everything right. would u rather i just kept quiet, & arrogantly think i know it all, & instead did everything wrong?? THINK ABT IT!!
& if u were really so concerned & felt that i needed to know more abt the dog FAST, u could've spent the last 2-3 posts giving some helpful comments instead of shooting yr mouth off making such inconstructive & unfair accusations. u say u mean well, but all yr actions say otherwise. either u r well-meaning but really dumb & full of hot air, or u r just another hypocritical jerk. U DECIDE!! :P
& if u bothered to read what blacklady & i were talking abt, u would know dat i was just asking personal questions like what SPARKY liked, or was used to. those questions suggested more that i was pampering the dog & not that i was ignorant. pls stop showing concern; it only serves to tell everyone reading these posts how shallow u r up there. & don't tell people u r a breeder, cos they'll all laugh & pity the dogs under yr care. ISN'T IT AMAZING HOW WONDERFUL & LOYAL DOGS CAN BE... THAT THEY WOULD EVEN STAY WITH SOMEONE LIKE U. http://petshub.com/ubb/smile.gif a authoritarian like u is too stuffed up in his #@% to see that & would probably do wat he thinks is right, without bothering or caring to do wat was rite for the dog.
since u r the expert, tell me if SPARKY likes long walks, if he wants to sleep in a kennel at nite or in a warm basket on a blanket... BET U CAN'T ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, CAN U?? i suggest u back down & slug off into the silence b4 u display even more ignorance for the whole world to see, such "DUUH-NESS" that our human race has yet to see or even hear off...
all the best, hope u'll grow some cow-sense b4 u appear again. thank u SUNMAN for coming to our defense, but it's ok, such people don't deserve our attention. i couldn't take such stupidity, so i replied, but i won't even bother to dignify any more of his comments in future; it ain't worth it.

[Hans]

Wow ! I've certainly stumbled across an exciting forum. I'm new to this particular forum and none have captivated me quite like this. This exact subject gets a little more interesting with a bit of research.

Ridgie - I have read all your posts from this forum and some others. Keep up the good work ! Your depth of extensive knowledge on dogs health and temperment is quite enjoyable to read. You know you'll never be able to help all the dogs out there, but if you can help 1, which I believe you've helped many, then you've done well. I commend you.

Blacklady - I don't know what to say about you. Not even 2 months ago you were advertising a litter for sale. I recall that you were selling these pups for $300. That's alot for a mixed breed and the fact that you bred for interest of something besides the betterment of a breed (probably money) just contributes to the unwanted pet population of the world. Your motives are obviously hidden as you flat out lied about "Sparky" being the father (yes I read all your posts too). My only wish here is that you lost money in this venture and will never return to breeding pets for any reason. Somebody did take possesion of Sparky without knowing very important information about him. No matter what you say Liz did ask basic questions about food, excersize, and bedding. How could you send away a dog with a new owner, without telling them what made that dog comfortable! It was bad enough reading your posts to the new owner, and addressing her by the wrong name.

Raquel - You should have stopped talking before you started. You have so much to learn. Ridgies questions were good ones....OPEN YOUR EYES ! Ridgie did try giving you some helpful points as you suggested, but you already new it all. Their knowledge of dogs goes far beyond your little world, do some research, Ridgies probably studying to be a vet, or atleast a very experienced pet owner. When you work with rescues you can place hundreds of dogs with new owners, each dog sometimes getting only 1 second chance at a happy life. Thus the importance of getting the right fit with the new owners. If it wasn't for rescues alot of these dogs would have been euthinized because their owners lives had different priorities. I'm glad that you never let a dog leave your home and insult Ridgie for doing so, but if you knew what rescues did, which YOU SHOULD HAVE RESEARCHED BEFORE GETTING A DOG! you would never said anything. You are a good name caller though, and your insults totally livened up this post.......but you are the one that ended up looking like the a s s !
You said you "couldn't take such stupidity" Well we all know you can sure give it !!

I was even more frightened to see your post "looking for an eight week old puppy purebred" the next day after getting Sparky. Lots of horrible questions come to me now? Who knows Singapore might get another backyard breeder maybe.

Anyways for anyone that was as drawn in by this soap as I was I hope you enjoyed it, heck it could even get better!

If you are looking for a pet.........Please do your research before getting a new Family Member.

Sincerely,
Hans Siefert
"Pets are forever"

[SUNMAN30]

Hans , your strong statements are showing that you know a lot about pets or so it seems.

I believe we are all here in this forum to share or learn what are the best ways to give the pets the best of coz up to each owner's best means.It is not about who saved the most pets are good rescuer and those who saved 1 are "ass".

I believe you've made a very big mistake by saying to Raquel" OPEN YOUR EYES !" coz you said to Blacklady "and addressing her by the wrong name."I think you should be the one to
"OPEN YOUR EYES!!!" coz Raquel(Nickname) is Rachel (Real Name). (Yes , i do my research too!!!)(Hm....sounds familiar huh)????

By the way , what is wrong with having 1 or more dogs as pets.Why it is allowed with Ridgie and not with Raquel????

Are you sexist?????

And moreover , what have it got to do with "another backyard breeder".What or who gave you that idea.

Is thats all you can think about then I think you should be more worry for Ridgie coz Ridgie is having more pets in and out of his "rescue".

[raquel]

okok... i think i need to say my piece. firstly, some clarification. i am rachel, & i am also LIZ.
yes, i did put up a post saying that i am looking for a pup... but so what? does that give u (HANS), the right to call me a backyard breeder? u r a real dickhead, u know that?? does anyone who wants more than one dog necessarily have to fall in that category?? so if i want two male dogs, i'm encouraging homosexuality... - is that it??? <ROLLS EYES> Gosh!! some people r just so "up there", i wish u'd just stuff yr head up yr @%#!!
& i did do research b4 i adopted SPARKY... i talked to at least 3 other people who worked in shelters, & i made visits to view 3 other dogs... in the end i chose SPARKY cos we took to each other instantly!!
but i don't think i'm obligated to justify myself to u!! what makes me or blacklady any worse than ridgie & u?? we have different views on how to go abt handling dogs, but i think we do the best we can... i don't pretend to know more than either ridgie or u, but i definitely have a clear conscience. i love dogs & i do my best for my dogs.ridgie might know a lot abt dogs, but that doesn't give him the right to say someone isn't able to give a dog a happy life just cos one didn't know the dog's likes & dislikes the 1st day she has the dog. isn't what matters the fact that she is trying to find out?? not knowing whether the dog likes to sleep in a warm basket or in a kennel instead does not make one unable to take good care of the dog. r u really too blind to see that the fact that one asks such a questions shows concern & not neglect?? D-UU-UUUHHH!!
people who work in shelters & rescue organizations are admirable but does that mean others who don't, r SCUM??? day in, day out, people like ridgie help find dogs new homes; but they take care of dogs temporarily, whilst most owners take care of their dogs forever. who's to say which grp is more superior??
do u know that Sparky was injured when he first came into my home? & now he's recovering really well. whatever ridgie says, & whatever u say, SPARKY & i are happy together. to those who r truly concerned abt SPARKY, just wanna say that everything's fine with him... http://petshub.com/ubb/smile.gif
i don't wanna be the target of some people who have nothing better to do than to pick at others without real understanding of who they really are, & what they r abt. <HINT! HINT!> http://petshub.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Ridgie]

Hi Hans thank you. I concur.

I should not even dignify the infantile talk from the other with a response. I mean how can anything I say come across more meaningful than being cursed out and told "DUH" (LOL). I do not have the time or the desire to respond to this kind of trash talk.

Raquel says:
>>ridgie might know a lot abt dogs, but that doesn't give him the right to say someone isn't able to give a dog a happy life just cos one didn't know the dog's likes & dislikes the 1st day she has the dog. isn't what matters the fact that she is trying to find out?? <<

Please reread my posts and make sure you know EXACTLY what was said BEFORE you make untrue statements. There is no record of me actually saying or implying what you stated(In the above quote) I said. In fact I said OTHERWISE in my last POST:
>>
I'm sure Raquel will make a wonderful mom and the dog is in great hands.<<<

See unlike yourself, I never condemned you.

I stated as I STILL BELIEVE (IMO), that anyone who gets an animal should know things like what to feed, where to keep the dog, any problems the dog may have etc etc. *BEFORE* they take the dog into possesion. Thats all. And no I did not say you were never going to be told this information.

So why is this important.... eg. A couple were given a dog by some people who know longer wanted him. The people were given no instructions about food or ANYTHING. So dinner time came along and they fed their dog. Maybe an hour later this dog was in EMERGENCY.... it was severly allergic to the food and had an intense reaction. Within hours later the dog was dead. This was the first day they owned the dog. Can you imagine how the new owners felt http://petshub.com/ubb/frown.gif They were devastated.

While this is rare it IS an example of why any info IS important.

Raquel said, referring to rescue workers:
>>
but they take care of dogs temporarily, whilst most owners take care of their dogs forever<<

Well if you took the time to read before you attack, then you would know I have my OWN permanent dogs too.

So say what you like and curse all you want it has no effect on me. I made my ONE point and regardless I AM given the satisfaction like it or not, I know if this situation occurs again you both WILL do things different the next time you give or recieve a dog. http://petshub.com/ubb/smile.gif This pleases me so..... my job is complete Thank you!!!

[Blacklady]

Hi everybody...

Rachel is kind enough to adopt Sparky in and to my information after our teleconversations, I know that she loves Sparky very much and is taking great length to take care of him.

We are all pet lovers but why are we condemning one another when there are people out there harming and torturing animals?

I am very greatful of Rachel and I am certain that Sparky will be happy with her. For this, I believe she deserves and thumbs up and not finger pointing.

I am aware that she has an intention to get another dog and I have advised her to be very certain that she can handle 2 dogs otherwise, it's not a good idea. And she definitely has no intention to breed them.

Hans, my puppies are healthy and all in good hands. And anyway, I did not cross breed them out of purpose or any money making scheme. Whatever it is, I dun see a need to explain or clarify. You can critisize or point finger at me, I dun care. As long as my conscious is 100% clear.

Sparky was initially intended to be given up to SPCA by his original owner due to the reason that was stated and I took him in temparily out of kindness. I have spoken to the owner many times asking them whether they would like to take him back but sadly the answer finally was "give him away or to SPCA".

I then decide to see if there is anyone who is kind enough to adopt Sparky and that was when Rachel came along.

The journey to Rachel's house was emotional and definitly not easy to handle at all because I love Sparky too. But after meeting Rachel and saw how Sparky took her in, I felt at ease. I did advise her on Sparky's behavior, his eating style, what food I feed him, bathing, shampoo, etc. Yes, I may have missed out some informations like whether Sparky sleeps in a Kennel or on a rug. But other than that, the questions that she posted was what other kind of treats / goodies does he like, did I pamper him alot... All these questions are out of concern and passion to make Sparky more comfortable in her house and are not critical at all. Before I left her house, I told her that she can contact me anytime if she has anything to ask me.

Without finding out the truth or seeing the whole picture, accusation started immediately which is very unfair to Rachel and myself. And we greatly appreciate Sunman who came in and voiced his oppinion as I believe that he saw my point and Rachel's point.

At the end of the day, we all have great passion and love for animals but it seems that in this forum, instead of sharing information and experiences, there is a comparison of each others' length and depth of love and passion for animals.

Whoever and whatever the next post is going to be, whether is it going to point fingers at me, Rachel or Sunman, think it thoroughly first.

As for me, I'm still keeping in touch with Rachel and I'm confident that he is in good hands.

Have a nice day.

[Blacklady]

Hi everybody...

Rachel is kind enough to adopt Sparky in and to my information after our teleconversations, I know that she loves Sparky very much and is taking great length to take care of him.

We are all pet lovers but why are we condemning one another when there are people out there harming and torturing animals?

I am very greatful of Rachel and I am certain that Sparky will be happy with her. For this, I believe she deserves and thumbs up and not finger pointing.

I am aware that she has an intention to get another dog and I have advised her to be very certain that she can handle 2 dogs otherwise, it's not a good idea. And she definitely has no intention to breed them.

Hans, my puppies are healthy and all in good hands. And anyway, I did not cross breed them out of purpose or any money making scheme. Whatever it is, I dun see a need to explain or clarify. You can critisize or point finger at me, I dun care. As long as my conscious is 100% clear.

Sparky was initially intended to be given up to SPCA by his original owner due to the reason that was stated and I took him in temparily out of kindness. I have spoken to the owner many times asking them whether they would like to take him back but sadly the answer finally was "give him away or to SPCA".

I then decide to see if there is anyone who is kind enough to adopt Sparky and that was when Rachel came along.

The journey to Rachel's house was emotional and definitly not easy to handle at all because I love Sparky too. But after meeting Rachel and saw how Sparky took her in, I felt at ease. I did advise her on Sparky's behavior, his eating style, what food I feed him, bathing, shampoo, etc. Yes, I may have missed out some informations like whether Sparky sleeps in a Kennel or on a rug. But other than that, the questions that she posted was what other kind of treats / goodies does he like, did I pamper him alot... All these questions are out of concern and passion to make Sparky more comfortable in her house and are not critical at all. Before I left her house, I told her that she can contact me anytime if she has anything to ask me.

Without finding out the truth or seeing the whole picture, accusation started immediately which is very unfair to Rachel and myself. And we greatly appreciate Sunman who came in and voiced his oppinion as I believe that he saw my point and Rachel's point.

At the end of the day, we all have great passion and love for animals but it seems that in this forum, instead of sharing information and experiences, there is a comparison of each others' length and depth of love and passion for animals.

Whoever and whatever the next post is going to be, whether is it going to point fingers at me, Rachel or Sunman, think it thoroughly first.

As for me, I'm still keeping in touch with Rachel and I'm confident that he is in good hands.

Have a nice day.

[Blacklady]

Oops, before anyone starts critisizing again, something wrong with my pc and therefore my reply was sent twice.

Regards.