Horse kicking

[horseluver12]

Hello agian everybody!

I have got a real problem, and I was wondering if ya'll could give me a few suggestions! Well, let me tell you about it first;

My aunt has a paliminio gelding, named Dandy. We think he is around 3 years of age, and he has had about...30 rides on him. A couple of days ago, we had the farrier come out and give him a trim. well, that was probably a site for any other people that were watching! Bryan is the farrier. When Bryan came up to lift up one of his front feet, Dandy kicked out with his right hind left.Then we put a twich on him to settle him. When Bryan got around to doing his hind legs, well, that's when we had the problem. Dandy would move around and not let Bryan pick up his feet. Finally he let him, and we got the job done. I cannot figure out what's goin on here! Anytime someone will get around his RIGHT HIND LEG, he will try to kick you. Now these big kicks are delibret, not just because he's young. He will actually try to get you! I'm not kidding. Wel, I hope someone replies soon! All suggestions are appreciated!

Thanks for al your help,
Lisa:confused:

[MagnoliaFly]

I'd have a vet check that leg to see if it is injuried first. If it isnt injuried, I'd go through a de-sensitizing session all over his body with a long lead rope in a coil without the clip attached. (This is a technique Pat Parelli has used for years to get a horse used to being touched in many places). It will take a while to get the horse to trust you to touch him anywhere. If you've never used Pat Parelli or the techniques, go to the website at www.parelli.com I've been to his two-day seminar and I learned so much there! His techniques have been proven time and time again with problem horses and in training different horses.

[horseluver12]

The leg isn't injured. The was one other ting that I gorgot to mention on here. Dandy was abused at his preveous owners place. When my aunt went out to look at Dandy and she that he was broke to ride, she saw that the guy that was riding him was slapping him on the neck. It wasn't reassuring slaps either, it was just fast hard slaps. Supposidly Dandy had went to a trainer for 2 months, but we think it more like 2 days. He is increadibly spooky, and has horrible manners. I suggested that we start all over with him, but my aunt and uncle are cared of him. I'm not, tough. I would like to work with him, but since the owner of Dandy is my aunt, you can see she is concerned about my safety. Another thing Dandy did was almost kill a little girl. He kicked her right straight in the head. This is what happened;

My step-uncle was Taking Dandy out of his stall to put him in the pasture for the day. Well, the little girl that sometimes comes over was here, and she walked up beside Bill( my step-uncle). Beleive me, she WAS NOWHERE NEAR THAT HORSE. She knows what to do around horses, so she stayed about 3 feet beside the horse when she came walking up. She didn't startle the horse either, he dilibrately kicked her. Dandy knew she was there. He is a very jealous horse. He has a HUGE stall and a pen to play around in. If I'm out riding one of my horses, Dandy will stand in his stall and rub on his gate. Dandy doesn't even like me! I compelety hate this horse. I have given him chances to straighten out, but he will always go back to his old ways. And it doesn't help much to have his owners completely terrified of him! I just don't know what to do. He is a QH( not that that has anything to do with it) We beleive they probably inbred him to get that color. I hate it when people do that. Wel, anyway, my Aunt and Bill have him up on AgDirect.com for sale. They have a 15-year-old girl coming out to look at him soon. She wants to train him for barrels. Well, that's all I have for now, but I will tell the rest later.

Lisa

[lovechick]

I'm sorry about your aunts horse, that sounds pretty bad, in fact sounds just like Chester, this one horse at quine center where I ride, that horse is wild, well definitely doesent seem like from the side, but oh boy, is he one nasty horse. First time I tried to brush him, had no clue, what he would do, I used soft brush, suddenly he turns his head and snaps on me, then tried to kick me with his hind leg, so I kinda moved forward, all of a sudden he gave me that wild eye look and tried to squish me to the wall, luckily I escaped, lol...nevermore, well this other time I had to hose down all horses feet, when it came to Chester, he didnt wanna come out of the stall, so I pulled harder, finally he gave in, and I led him to washing area and cross tied him, when i turned the water on, he went crazy, he started backing away and then rearing, suddenly one of the hooks snapped but I got the hold of other and pulled hard and said "Whoa!!", he calmed down a bit,but was still breathing hard and I could see the white of the eye, it was scary... I know poor guy was scared to death, so I gently petted him on the shoulder, and gave him some grass, then I said no thanks, how about I just leave this horse alone, so from now on, I dont go near him, but suprisigly enough, he's a great riding horse, I dunno whats wrong..

[horseluver12]

Scary story!

Well, you see, I don't mess with my aunt's horse. It's not that I'm afraid of him, cuz' I'm not, it's that they won't let me. I don't think they will ever do anything with that horse. I tihnk the 15-year-old girl is going to trade with them, tough. I feel sorry for er if she does, cuz' she's gonna be in for the ride of her life!

Wel, that's all I have for now!

TTYL

Lisa

[weasel]

Sounds to me that this is a VERY GREEN horse that was started by someone who was a poor horseman. This horse has learned to fear humans and when he doesn't understand what you're asking of him he reacts by kicking. You will need to spend a great deal of time and patience to gain his trust. Proper round pen work will help as will desensitizing sessions. Trying to explain all that here will take a lot of time (and typing!) Go to http://www.rrvfsbo.com/SADDLE-UP2.htm and click on the link for Common Sense Horsemanship. You'll find a lot of useful info there. With this horse you'll need to go back to square one and teach him the basics in ground work. I would do that before I got on his back again. He obviously wasn't taught well the first time. Good luck!

[SacredWarGirl23]

Okay, had anyone owned this horse prior to your aunt? Maybe it had been whipped. Some horses are just touchy around their back ends. My mare is. Sometimes it's just a horses nature to do that. Horses are prey animals, so they are sometimes really touchy when they can't see what's going on. Usually a horse likes to know where you are and what you are doing. Yah know, those sorts of things.

If you want, e-mail me and we can talk about it. Let me know how things are going.

TTYL

~*Haley*~

[aleamon98]

i agree with weasel, he seems a little green. One of my last babys would do that with his hind quarters, he acted liek he had been hurt on it and just didn't want it messed with. after a lot of work with just going out and picking it up over and over and over he grew out of it.... it will take some work to accomplish this though. but since he is only 3, it shouldn't take long....