I need some help STAT!

[Pinkbubble283]

there is somthing on the back neck of my dog. I don't know what it is, My Mom thinks its ringworm, i don't think it is, casue my cat has had ringworm before and it did not look like this! its kinda groosim looking.. I have a picture if that will help any..

please help me kinda fast.

heres the groosim picture... ew..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Bubblehead1123/RhondasPicturesOnly013.jpg

[gerbillover]

Go to the vet. I'm not sure what it is, but it cant be good. Please take her to a vet.

[MoonkiePie]

yeah, i agree -- anything that you have never seen before and that you would call "gruesome" is definitely reason enough to take the dog to the doctor!!

[Punkygirl0101]

it looks like ringworm to me... but i would take her to the vet, none of us are vets, only your vet can help you with that!

[Norman]

Having never experienced ringworm I wouldn't know but after a quick google in images it does have similarities to ringworm so to be safe make an emergency appointment with the vet and let us know how it goes.

[mallyrk]

It looks like ringworm, but only a vet can be sure.

[FemaleCheetah]

Heres a tip - Take the dog to a VET! Wow that was really hard <--- Being sarcastic on that last part

[Pinkbubble283]

Alrighty, I think its ringworm too, I don't think we'll take him to a vet casue all they do is put him under a black light, and if its green, they'll prescribe some neosporin that cost 20 bucks for this tiny tiny tube, (when you can go get a huget hing of it for four bucks!) and this shampoo that costs 25 bucks that you can go get at the store that costs 10 bucks.. lastnight me and my mom went to the store and got the shampoo (it realyl does work too).. and we have a black light from the last time he had it.. so it should start clearing up soon..

thanks.

[Pinkbubble283]

oops, didn't mean to post two times.. it was taking forever.

[lneill84]

Wow, so when did you become a vet? Ringworm doesn't usually get that bloody and it looks terribly infected. It does have the proper shape, but i've never seen it that red/bloody. Its usually just a scaly hairless ring. God, I pity your dogs so much. Ringworm is not a worm, but rather a fungus. It is extremely hard to get rid of in some animals, and highly contagious. If your dog has it, then you better be extremely careful or you'll end up getting it and so will your other animals. The medication that you claim is too "expensive" is the only thing that will treat it-OTC crap isn't strong enough. Im sure its the same stuff that you got at the store, because vets just overcharge and don't know what they are talking about.

[MoonkiePie]

Bubble, i seriously think you should take the dog to the vet. you are NOT qualified to make a diagnosis and who knows, it could be something other than ringworm. if it is, you would be treating the problem incorrectly and it could get WORSE. if you have a dog, you need to have the wherewithall to take care of him properly, which means admitting you need an expert opinion and getting professional attention. TAKE THE DOG TO THE VET.

[lneill84]

Not to mention putting that shampoo and ointment on an open sore

[gerbillover]

You shouldn't have a dog if you can't afford or don't want to go to the vet.

I take my dog to the vet at the first sign that anything is wrong, we have been to the vet a lot in the last few months, she's had whip worms and a few other things, there were times we went to the vet and nothing was wrong, but at least we knew she was ok.

[Jennicat]

For the sake of your dog, please take it to the vet. And if your vet gives you antibiotics for ringworm, get a new vet because that one is not bright. Ringworm is a fungus.

[Pinkbubble283]

Ok, we'll take him to the vet.

[lotsopigs]

if you used the blacklight and it glowed, you should be using antifungal cream...if so it should get better or diminish overnight! if not, it's vet time...besides the pick you posted could be just about anything...even a wart! i can't tell from that! if you are at all unsure please just go to the vet...also pray it's a wart, ringworm is highly contagious to all mammals! ewwwww...

[lneill84]

yup sure ya will :)

[Pinkbubble283]

For the sake of your dog, please take it to the vet. And if your vet gives you antibiotics for ringworm, get a new vet because that one is not bright. Ringworm is a fungus.

I know its fungus.. we got his really expensive shampoo that is for fungus and stuff, my ma bathed him with it last night and its already looking better.. its smaller and its starting to go away.

[Pinkbubble283]

you know, nevermind, she can't go to the vet, shes to busy, and I don't really think its nescesary to cause its already going away... but, I promise if it by per chance gets worse, I'll make her take him to the vet..

[Norman]

why ask for help and advice when you can diagnose yourself?!? Oh yeah thats right you're a 29, sorry 25 sorry 15 year old VET who knows what they are doing!

Get your dog to a vet and make sure you have the right treatment.

Sorry if I sound harsh but I have a "friend" who just lost their dog to poor health cos she just didn't look after her - even with moan after moan from me. The dog was anally bleeding but the bleeding was reducing so she was "getting better already" after only a WEEK (oh where have I heard that before) and basically this dog never got treated and has died. Go to a vet and grow up and learn to look after your animals.

[Jennicat]

Unfortunately, self diagnosing and substandard pet care seems to be an ongoing thread with Pinkbubble. :\

[Norman]

Its like brick wall meet my head :brickwall

[Punkygirl0101]

We had some kittens that got ringworm, and they gave us an anti-fungal cream.. went away in a matter of days! (Tolnaftate cream).

LOL Normam...

Oh yeah thats right you're a 29, sorry 25 sorry 15 year old VET who knows what they are doing!

[Norman]

sorry punky couldn't resist!!! tee hee I'm bad!

[KellyP]

why ask for help and advice when you can diagnose yourself?!? Oh yeah thats right you're a 29, sorry 25 sorry 15 year old VET who knows what they are doing!

Get your dog to a vet and make sure you have the right treatment.

Sorry if I sound harsh but I have a "friend" who just lost their dog to poor health cos she just didn't look after her - even with moan after moan from me. The dog was anally bleeding but the bleeding was reducing so she was "getting better already" after only a WEEK (oh where have I heard that before) and basically this dog never got treated and has died. Go to a vet and grow up and learn to look after your animals.

Rectal bleeding and a little thing like ring worm are too hugely differen't things. Rectal bleeding is a sign that something is terribly wrong. The two can't even be compared. Her dog isn't going to die because she's treating teh ring worm on her own. I could understand your harshness if this were something more severe. To say someone doesn't deserve thier dog over something like this is ridiculous. She said that she would bring it to the vet if her treatment wasn't showing signs of working. I don't think that she's irresponsible just because she doesn't run to the vet for every single little thing. Sometimes just using your experience and common sense for little things is enough.

[MouseyMari]

Glad you're taking your poor doggie to the vet that is needed Pinkbubble, otherwise your credibility would have gone down even further:( Not to mention just letting the problem progress with vet consultation is very irresponsible.

[Punkygirl0101]

shes not taking him to the vet afterall... shes treating it herself!!

[lneill84]

I don't think that she's irresponsible just because she doesn't run to the vet for every single little thing. Sometimes just using your experience and common sense for little things is enough.

Yes, when you know what the exact diagnosis is. If my dog has loose stools, I know from experience to give him chicken and rice or Canine I/D. If they are bloody, tarry or he's in pain, im obvi. going to the vet. That didn't look like ringworm to me, and it looks infected. God knows what kind of shampoo she used, and it probably made it worse. You never want to use a shampoo thats supposibly harsh enough to kill ringworm on an open sore-thats common sense. PinkBubble has had a long history on here making very poor decisions regarding her animals. Ringworm can be very tricky to treat, and is highly contagious. I doubt that she has taken the necessary precautions to make sure her other animals and even herself don't get it. I've had ringworm 4 times, gotten from horses that had ringworm. Vets are vets because they know how to properly treat and diagnose problems-thinking that you personally are experienced to handle something that is unknown is arrogant, and immature. Vets go to school for YEARS to be able to properly diagnose and treat animals-thinking that some 15 or 25 or 27 or whatever age she claims to be can treat something that is unknown is irresponsible.

[eviloxygen]

If it is ringworm its not as easy as some cream and shampoo. Ringworm lives in your house, your other animals and in people. It is similiar to fleas in that it can actually live in your carpet ect. You need to not only treat all animals but also the area the pet lives in and yourself and family. Take the dog to the vet and get the appropriate diagnosis so that you can provide care for your animal and yourselves. Ringworm is not fun, and it does not go away easily again it is very similiar to fleas, you will think its gone and it will live in the very bed you sleep in.

Good luck

[MoonkiePie]

well i think the thing here is, PinkBubble is -- what? -- 15? i don't know. but at any rate i guess that would make your MOM the caretaker here, since you are a minor. PinkBubble, i feel it is up to you to urge your mom to take the poor dog to the vet.

so (if i am getting this straight) what we have here seems to be a young person seeking advice, while MOM is really the primary caretaker of the animal.

if this is the case, PinkBubble, your role really is to advocate for the good of the dog. i repeat, you MUST take the dog to the vet.

[Pinkbubble283]

yeah lol, Norman, that was really funny.. that typo that I made is just hilarious.. it goes on and on and on and won't stop.. hahaha. I'm glad I make people laugh.

[lneill84]

You make people laugh in a bad way. Whenever I see what new question you've come up with, I laugh. Whenever I see what your posts are, I laugh-so yes, thanks for making me laugh

[Pinkbubble283]

Rectal bleeding and a little thing like ring worm are too hugely differen't things. Rectal bleeding is a sign that something is terribly wrong. The two can't even be compared. Her dog isn't going to die because she's treating teh ring worm on her own. I could understand your harshness if this were something more severe. To say someone doesn't deserve thier dog over something like this is ridiculous. She said that she would bring it to the vet if her treatment wasn't showing signs of working. I don't think that she's irresponsible just because she doesn't run to the vet for every single little thing. Sometimes just using your experience and common sense for little things is enough.


thankyou very much!

I know what it is.. its ringworm, and I know how to treat ringworm, hello.. like this person said^^ USE YOUR COMMON SENSE!! I've had to treat ringworm two or three other times before, and I am not gong to the vet for it, I know what to do.. so ya'll can just shut up now cause whatever else you say, will just be a waste of yours and my time... and I know when something is seriously wrong with my pets.. then I will take them to the vet, but this isn't even life treatening.. eerr, you people make me... ggrr.

[Punkygirl0101]

If you really did KNOW what ringworm was, and knew how to treat it already.. WHY DID YOU MAKE THIS THREAD? Really......

[Pinkbubble283]

because I didn't know what it was at the time, but after looking at it more, and my mom being sure it was ringworm, and the fact that when she bathed him last (after I made this thread) and this morning it was smaller.. I think he'll be jsut fine.

[lneill84]

Good job, you are now the world's youngest vet. I didn't know that your mom was a vet too! What aren't you getting about this thread? 1) it doesn't look like ringworm 2) its infected and bloody 3) OTC ringworm treatments don't work 4) ringworm is highly contagious, and you, your entire family and your pets can get it. Just because its smaller doesn't mean its going away. Ringworm can simply transfer to another part of the body. I sincerely hope that your animals find better homes than being with your family.

[Pinkbubble283]

Good job, you are now the world's youngest vet. I didn't know that your mom was a vet too! What aren't you getting about this thread? 1) it doesn't look like ringworm 2) its infected and bloody 3) OTC ringworm treatments don't work 4) ringworm is highly contagious, and you, your entire family and your pets can get it. Just because its smaller doesn't mean its going away. Ringworm can simply transfer to another part of the body. I sincerely hope that your animals find better homes than being with your family.

I'm ignoreing you.

[lneill84]

SUPER! I feel honored

[MoonkiePie]

PinkBubble, i hope you are not thinking i was trying to be rude, i really was trying to be helpful. i hope my posts came across as emphatic rather than rude.

[Jennicat]

I've got to admit, that doesn't resemble any ringworm I've seen. I had the misfortune of catching it from a friend's pet, and it wasn't raw and bloody looking like that, it was just pink and raised.

[Norman]

Even if it is ringworm it is better to have it checked out by a vet to be safe for the dog and rest of family. Just cos it looks to be getting better on that dog does not stop it being contagious to the rest of the household.

[tltrull]

I've got to admit, that doesn't resemble any ringworm I've seen. I had the misfortune of catching it from a friend's pet, and it wasn't raw and bloody looking like that, it was just pink and raised.

Ringworm looks different in hairy areas(and on animals)...my daughter had it on her head and it was quite scarey!

[Jennicat]

Oh, I know. The cat they adopted from the rural shelter was covered in it. And it still didn't look like that. Maybe the dog has managed to scratch it raw until it looks like that.

[KellyP]

I can't believe how certain people treat others on this board. Saying things like "I sincerely hope your family finds beter homes for thier pets" or "you make me laugh in a bad way" and "Pinkbubble is known on these boards for her substandard pet care" are terrible things to say to a pet lover. So she didn't take her dog to the vet for it's ringworm. Does that give you the right to treat her in this way? She obviously cares about her pets. She's trying to treat it, and has agreed to take the dog to the vet if it gets any worse. Some of you gave great advice and information that I'm sure will help her. But for the others that were rude and downright mean, you really should rethink what your doing.

[Jennicat]

We've given her countless nice advice in the past, which has all been ignored. At some point, people get fed up. I guess you're too new to have seen it all. :)

[Iridal]

If I had the medication on hand for ringworm, I probably would try some at home treatment first. Of course, I probably would have noticed it earlier and wouldn't have let it get that nasty in the first place....

[lneill84]

There is always a difference between OTC medicine and medication given under a vet's care. For something like fleas, OTC flea shampoo should do the trick. But when you have something as highly contagious as ringworm, you don't want to mess around with OTC. I forget who said it, but ringworm can live in carpets, beds, linens, blankets, etc-thats correct and thats why its so hard to get rid of and another reason why you need very strong medication for it. I've had ringworm 4 times, and it never ever looked like that. I've seen ringworm on i don't know how many dogs, horses, and cats, and its never looked like that. That was infected and crusty. It was always a raised, hairless patch, in a perfect circle or close to a perfect circle. If I had medication prescribed by a doctor on hand, I would still first call my vet and ask. Thats why vets are professionals and pet owners are not. I don't think its ringworm-it could very well be an abcess that burst, or maybe the dog was rubbing it, but ringworm isn't itchy or anything like that. Kelly P-you need to go back and read the things that pinkbubble has asked about and said-then you will understand everyone's unbelievable frustration with her. Before you go start bashing people, why don't you go read her previous posts? She is a neglectful animal owner, on more ways than just this, and doesnt deserve animals. That might be my opinion, but I can only imagine what her dog's lives are like. I would never ever neglect my dogs, cats, ferrets, or chinchillas care. It doesn't cost anything to make a phone call to a vet. I am lucky enough I have a great relationship with my vet, and he wouldn't charge me for something like a ringworm check. I would get charged for the medication, and thats it.

[FemaleCheetah]

I compltely agree with KellyP, this is why people HATE posting because of people that say such mean/rude/hurtful things. We are supposed to be helping her out not putting her down and telling her that she shouldnt own her animals. She is trying to treat it, and she said if it gets worse SHE WILL TAKE THE DOG TO THE VET! She also said that the dog was scratching at the wound so that could be why it appears bloody. She came on here asking for our advice just because she doesnt take it doesnt make her a bad pet owner.

[FemaleCheetah]

Again I repeat, she said it was getting better and she said if it gets worse the dog will go to the vet and besides her mom is the actual caregiver and is the person who isnt taking the dog to the vet not Bubble. When I lived with my mom she didnt take our dog to the vet for every thing even when I protested and if it could be treated at home that was how it was done. My dog had tap worms so we bought pills OTC which worked! Some people cant just go and rush to the vet for everything especially when they know how they can treat the problem and cure it. You dont have to be a vet to know common sense.

[Jennicat]

Asking on the internet and then deciding that strangers are right is not "knowing how to treat a problem", it's "listening to strangers on a messageboard".

[KellyP]

KellyP-you need to go back and read the things that pinkbubble has asked about and said-then you will understand everyone's unbelievable frustration with her. Before you go start bashing people, why don't you go read her previous posts? She is a neglectful animal owner, on more ways than just this, and doesnt deserve animals. That might be my opinion, but I can only imagine what her dog's lives are like.


I just took a look at her previous posts. I could only find two. One was about her SISTER breeding thier shitzu. Allot of people were angered by that, but I don't really think that it's fair to be mean to her over something that her sister did. The other was a post about her teaching her dog a bunch of new tricks. Am I missing something? I don't think either of those show that she's a terrible pet owner.

[Punkygirl0101]

I agree fully with ineil and jennicat.. people are fed up with pinkbubble.. she never listens to the good advice, and she LIES!! She lies alot, she always changes her stories. Its frustrating.

I highly doubt she will take her dog to the vet... I even doubt that her sister took the pregnant one to a vet.

[lneill84]

I agree fully with ineil and jennicat.. people are fed up with pinkbubble.. she never listens to the good advice, and she LIES!! She lies alot, she always changes her stories. Its frustrating.

I highly doubt she will take her dog to the vet... I even doubt that her sister took the pregnant one to a vet.

I second that. On the other hand, I want to think that she's some 9 year old with nothing better to do, and has no pets. Poor animals

[Chaos]

I compltely agree with KellyP, this is why people HATE posting because of people that say such mean/rude/hurtful things. We are supposed to be helping her out not putting her down and telling her that she shouldnt own her animals. She is trying to treat it, and she said if it gets worse SHE WILL TAKE THE DOG TO THE VET! She also said that the dog was scratching at the wound so that could be why it appears bloody. She came on here asking for our advice just because she doesnt take it doesnt make her a bad pet owner.

Remember this?

Heres a tip - Take the dog to a VET! Wow that was really hard <--- Being sarcastic on that last part

Funny how you change sides so quickly when criticized.

[Jennicat]

Funny how you change sides so quickly when criticized.

I had noticed that myself. :sheep:

[mallyrk]

lol I love you guys! :applause:

[FemaleCheetah]

I wasnt changing sides so guickly when criticized, I wasnt even being criticized!... after reading the 10 pages of this thread I realized that everyone is being so harsh and rude. I said that at the beginning of the post anywas and after hearing what else she has had to say I feel that everyone is being alittle mean. She is trying to treat the dog and she said its working, she said if it gets worse she will take the dog to the vet.

[FemaleCheetah]

This is exactly why I am starting to hate coming to the dog forums, because people are so %^&#$%^ rude! I mean come on give the girl a break, its not even HER responsibility its her moms, she tech. doesnt own the dog or have much say in what treatment the dog gets.

[MoonkiePie]

This is exactly why I am starting to hate coming to the dog forums, because people are so %^&#$%^ rude! I mean come on give the girl a break, its not even HER responsibility its her moms, she tech. doesnt own the dog or have much say in what treatment the dog gets.
yes, that was my point earlier.

[MouseyMari]

*sigh* People are harsh here because they have to be. Too many irresponsible dog owners.

[FemaleCheetah]

Yes I understand that MouseyMari but this isnt one of those cases. I know she should take the dog to the vet but not everyone can just up and take their dog for every single thing. Plus pinkbubble isnt the actual dog owner her mom is so she really doesn't have any say in the matter.

[Pinkbubble283]

ok... this thread... reading what people said, i'm crying now.. you people are mean..

just forget it.

[Iridal]

... are we really still talking about this?

[MoonkiePie]

ok... this thread... reading what people said, i'm crying now.. you people are mean..

just forget it.
don't cry!!!!!!!!!!!!! how is your dog doing????

[lneill84]

o don't kiss her ass, she neglects her dogs christ

[rittsi]

I really don't see what's so hard about going to the vet. Especially with it possibly being something as contagious as ringworm.

But ok, Pinkbubble, you say that it's improved. Why don't you take another picture of the wound? If you're so sure of it being ringworm now, others should be able to confirm this.

[KellyP]

*sigh* People are harsh here because they have to be. Too many irresponsible dog owners.

I disagree. If someone is not taking proper care of thier pets, your not going to teach them anything by yelling at them. As soon as you do that you put them on the defensive. They stop listening to what you tell them. Anything you say to them after that point just goes in one ear and out the other. However if your kind and persistent and give them good factual advice you have a much greater chance of getting the person to change thier ways. Apparently some people here don't care about the animals enough to put thier trash talking on hold long enough to help someone.

[MoonkiePie]

o don't kiss her ass, she neglects her dogs christ
look, hun, don't get nasty with me.

[FemaleCheetah]

I agree with KellyP 100%!

Ineill84 - That was uncalled for!

[Pinkbubble283]

Iniel's a snob... ignore iniel.. he has problems or something.


Rambo is fine.. its not ringworm, its some skin allergies.. we got medication for it and last night my mom bathed him again with that shampoo, then we put the medication on it.. and you will not believe how much better it looks.

[Pinkbubble283]

o don't kiss her ass, she neglects her dogs christ


I don't neglect my dog.. you have no idea how loved he is and spoiled.. and my cat.. goodness.. Does a mean, irresponsible owner nurses a cat back to heath? build their animals a tree post? spend three hundred dollars on a vet bill? won't let the dog chase the cat because the cat might scratch the dogs eye? let her cat wake her up ten times in the night when she has to get up at 5:30 in the morning? make a tiny tiny hamburger to cut up and mix in the dogs food? does a abused dog have a huge box of toys? like 35 toys... does an abused cat get 20.00 dollar food for only six pounds of food? huh?? huh???? I didn't think so.. you dont know me, so stop saying I abuse my animals.. gosh, if you only knew me.

[MoonkiePie]

good for you, girl! you and kellyp are 100000 times more mature than LNiell. she's on my ignore list. so NYEAH!

[Jennicat]

Wait, so first it was definitely ringworm but now it's a skin allergy? :confused:

[MiceandRatLove]

She deserves to be treated harshly. If you made a board about ringworm, and people tell you how to treat it, you DON'T get defensive about their advice. You set yourself up for this.

And no, the people are not treating her harshly, they are trying to get a point across to her. But she's to ignorant to listen.

The board title is 'I need some help STAT!'. People gave you information, and more than enough help.

Bubble, harassment isn't going to get your dog better. But listening, and knowledge does.

[MiceandRatLove]

I don't neglect my dog.. you have no idea how loved he is and spoiled.. and my cat.. goodness.. Does a mean, irresponsible owner nurses a cat back to heath? build their animals a tree post? spend three hundred dollars on a vet bill? won't let the dog chase the cat because the cat might scratch the dogs eye? let her cat wake her up ten times in the night when she has to get up at 5:30 in the morning? make a tiny tiny hamburger to cut up and mix in the dogs food? does a abused dog have a huge box of toys? like 35 toys... does an abused cat get 20.00 dollar food for only six pounds of food? huh?? huh???? I didn't think so.. you dont know me, so stop saying I abuse my animals.. gosh, if you only knew me.

So a box of toys, tiny hamburgers, and 20 dollar food is going to make your dog/cat stay healthy, forever? No. You also said you spent $300 on a vet bill, so you obviously can take him again. Hmmmm?

[lneill84]

Thats hilarous-you spend all this supposed money on your animals, but wont spend $50 on a vet treatment? You claim its ringworm, yet its bloody and infected, so then you decide to put a harsh shampoo on it, and then decide that its a skin infection. How hard is it to take an animal to a vet, like honestly? And yes, i am a snob-if my dog had a bloody sore on its body, the first place he would be going was a vet. So yes, I am a huge raging snob because I take care of my animals. There is a huge huge huge difference between a skin infection and ringworm and youre just too stupid and stubborn to realize it. I'm sick of your absolutely retarded, pointless posts, and then you're whining and bitching after pepole tell you the truth. I hope to god that you will give your animals up to a better home.

[Pinkbubble283]

did you not read what I said? its like 10 times better.. we got stuff from the vet and we are treating him with it.. I am so sick of you iniell your nothing but a mean snob.

and no, I will keep my animals cause I love them!! yes thats right I do love them.. so you can just shut up already..

and miceandratlover.. the advice people give me is.. give your pets to good homes.. yeah. .good advice.. like im giong to do that...

you know, i dont need your guys help anymore.. its healing quite good, so you can jsut stopposting in this thread.

[Punkygirl0101]

you said it was 10 times better when you were treating it for ringworm.....

Do you think you could take a picture?

And listing the few things your pet has is not going to change our minds about you...

(Most people here do more for their animals..We have spent SOO much money on vet bills, its not even funny! A $8,000 for TWO puppies with parvo.. $2,000 for surgery for ONE cat, another $2,000 surgery for a different cat.. LOTS of Amoxicillon and Baytil... I don't even know the total it was to spay/neuter ALL of our cats and dogs (except three dogs), So much more on cages for my small animals, toys, accessories.. so don't act like you are the best pet owner in the world!)

Why don't YOU stop posting in this thread?

[Pinkbubble283]

why are you people still going on bout it? Its healing just fine.. we took him to the vet, the vet said its skin allergy, he gave us medication spray stuff.. we took him to the vet, so we did take him to the vet.. so I don't wanna hear anymore that we didn't take him to the vet...

[Pinkbubble283]

and another thing.. why would we spend 85$ on a cat, 350$ on a dog, and abuse them? that makes no sense..

and why, why would both animals looove me if I abused them? thats jsut a big load.

[Punkygirl0101]

its funny that all you can put is how much money you bought the animals for..

Lots of people buy PUREBRED dogs for lots of money, and don't take care of them. Why do you think there are so many pure bred dogs in shelters, and there are so many purebred dog rescues? it doesn't matter how much money is spent on an animal.. people still abuse them.

I do think you take care of your dog and cats... I mean, they seem to be in good health, and happy. But right away, when you notice something wrong, tell your mom they NEED to go to a vet!

[Pinkbubble283]

alrighty.. I will do that next time. :).

I don't understand how someone could be mean to animals! ealier, we were at the vet, And this lady came out and she was crying like crazy, I felt so sad.. and they had an empty pet taxi with them.. that poor lady.. I started crying too.. I jsut suddenly got so sad.. if you can' tell, I cry alot.. but, I just don't understand people.. it makes me sick.

[MouseyMari]

That's great that you took him! Now you don't have to worry:)

[Shrelana]

and why, why would both animals looove me if I abused them? thats jsut a big load.

Pink, I'm not saying you abuse your animals by any means, however, it is very possible for an abused animal/child/person to love the abuser with all their heart. In fact, it's very common, believe me...

[MoonkiePie]

yayyy! i'm so glad, sweetie! keep us updated. :)

[Pinkbubble283]

that is weird.. why would a pet love someone who abuses them? thats just weird..

and his spot.. its like half the size it was before.. I am shocked at how fast its going away.

[Shrelana]

The abused often doesn't know there is anything other than abuse...and don't realize it's wrong....

[Pinkbubble283]

poor abused things!!! thats so sad!

[Shrelana]

Like I said it happens with animals and ppl....what's frightening is if a child abuses animals...they will probably grow up to abuse children/ppl....

[Pinkbubble283]

yeah.. thats sad.. abused animals are usually mean, and not friendly at all..

[MoonkiePie]

well, i don't know if i would say that abused animals are usually mean. they might have their quirks! i am babysitting for a pit mix who was adopted from a shelter, then returned because he was abused by the adopting person/people!! people are insane. but this dog is a the biggest, sweetest teddy-bear in the whole world. he has THE most loving parents now, and it's the happiest possible "ending" for him. they always tell him "we won't ever give you up!" that's one reason i will babysit while their away, because they don't want to bring him to a kennel EVER for fear that he will think he's back at the shelter.

i highly recommend adopting from shelters, even animals that have been abused. if the animal shows aggression, normally (and sadly, since it is not his/her fault) they will be put down. often healthy, friendly animals are put down due to shelter overflow. i may be "preaching to the choir" here, but i can't stress it enough! :D adopt from shelters and rescue groups!!

[MangoLaska]

yeah.. thats sad.. abused animals are usually mean, and not friendly at all..

The abused animals I see in the shelter aren't mean. They're afraid, and desperate for the smallest bit of love and affection.

[MiceandRatLove]

yeah.. thats sad.. abused animals are usually mean, and not friendly at all..

That's not true... ;)

[Pinkbubble283]

well, i don't know if i would say that abused animals are usually mean. they might have their quirks! i am babysitting for a pit mix who was adopted from a shelter, then returned because he was abused by the adopting person/people!! people are insane. but this dog is a the biggest, sweetest teddy-bear in the whole world. he has THE most loving parents now, and it's the happiest possible "ending" for him. they always tell him "we won't ever give you up!" that's one reason i will babysit while their away, because they don't want to bring him to a kennel EVER for fear that he will think he's back at the shelter.

i highly recommend adopting from shelters, even animals that have been abused. if the animal shows aggression, normally (and sadly, since it is not his/her fault) they will be put down. often healthy, friendly animals are put down due to shelter overflow. i may be "preaching to the choir" here, but i can't stress it enough! :D adopt from shelters and rescue groups!!

aww, that poor dog...


ok, well, maybe its not true, cause my neighbors didn't take care of there dog, and he was really sweet so, I stand corrected.:)

[K9BOB]

I totally diagree with your assertions moonkiepie..
what you have said is but a half truth in my opinion which has been discussed and elaborated on in several previous discussion on this forum... In addition if you "leave" or board your dog at a kennel or faciltity that is operated by behaviorists rather than just kennel dumps then your dog can actually be socialized and balanced at a higher degree. i do know what you are trying to say,it's that you are just a little off the mark on projecting accurate data...

k9BOB
k9bob

[MoonkiePie]

I totally diagree with your assertions moonkiepie..
what you have said is but a half truth in my opinion which has been discussed and elaborated on in several previous discussion on this forum... In addition if you "leave" or board your dog at a kennel or faciltity that is operated by behaviorists rather than just kennel dumps then your dog can actually be socialized and balanced at a higher degree. i do know what you are trying to say,it's that you are just a little off the mark on projecting accurate data...

k9BOB
k9bob
i don't know if your definition of "kennel" differs from mine, but i differentiate between "play groups" and kennels. around here, there are very few, if any, kennels that offer the kind of attention that i would want for my dog. (also, please note that in my post, it was made clear that this non-kenneling thing was the assertion of the people whose dog i am caring for, not my own -- although now that you mention it i do agree with their thoughts!) i also did not say that people "leave" their dogs at kennels. that is abandonment.

[K9BOB]

that's one reason i will babysit while their away, because they don't want to bring him to a kennel EVER for fear that he will think he's back at the shelter.”

“i highly recommend adopting from shelters, even animals that have been abused”

“DON'T BREED OR BUY WHILE ANIMALS DIE! ADOPT FROM SHELTERS AND RESCUE GROUPS!”
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First ..That fear actually could be eliminated and the dog could receive important behavioral modification and rehabbed if (kenneled) at a facility that does more than just manage your dog like a number or piece of dog meat…Which I know many do..I also find that in many cases a abused dog can be/will be aggressive to ..YES even the people who did not cause the aggression…it depends on how you communicate with the dog that it should not hold this against all people..and some dogs require a lot of convincing before reaching that point..it just depends..

I would have to admit that one may not find a dog friendly kennel in ones particular area, never the less this option is available in many areas and there is a difference in the services and management that various kennels provide and maybe I am too sensitive to your point.

I would never make a blanket statement where I would soley recommend adopting from a shelter… I would take each persons concerns/priorities/abilities/and goals on an individual case before pointing them to only one source….It is a matter of experience/wisdom/knowledge and honesty… and yes maybe you are not arguing that point but you did leave out the other options for some reason..

My opinion is be Leary of the misinformation associated with slogans like

“DON'T BREED OR BUY WHILE ANIMALS DIE! ADOPT FROM SHELTERS AND RESCUE GROUPS!”

because the agenda can blind you of options that may be better for you AND THE DOG depending on individual circumstances…

my agenda is to debate and point out this type of propaganda can be inaccurate and misleading…although it is a noble cause…

I am having a accurate presentation bad day so please do not feel like I am trying to be hostile towards your statements, it’s just that well they are not entirely representative of all of the possibilities….
K9bob

[MoonkiePie]

i respect what you are saying here, but my point is that animals are dying in shelters every day while not only legitimate breeders breed for their own purposes, but puppymills are also a thriving, greed-driven business. i believe it is imperative that people look to shelters first, then rescue groups (also breed-specific rescues) before they pay someone to *build a pet for them*.

furthermore, i did NOT say that abused animals cannot be aggressive toward people who haven't even abused them. sure they can! even animals that have never been abused can show aggression out of nowhere. but passing over an animal with a history of abuse is, in my opinion, missing an opportunity.

unfortunately, i feel what we have here is alternate opinions and beliefs. i would never kennel my dog and i, thankfully, have the resources to have him cared for the way that *i* feel is best for him. i also care for other people's pets who choose not to kennel them. it's a matter of choice, and my original post was not intended to coerce anyone into my way of thinking; if you refer back, you will see *again* that i was just stating that these people prefer that their dog stay in his own home where he is comfortable.

i am not attempting to change your way of thinking -- i won't even pretend to be able to do that -- but i am offended because i feel you are attacking *my* belief system.

[eviloxygen]

but i am offended because i feel you are attacking *my* belief system.

K9bob attacking someones belief system??? Wow thats a shocker

:)

[MoonkiePie]

K9bob attacking someones belief system??? Wow thats a shocker

:)
oh, so k9bob is famous for this?

[Punkygirl0101]

i would much rather support a shelter than a breeder (even a reputable one). And I advise people to do the same...

[Punkygirl0101]

yes moonkie, he is!

[eviloxygen]

Ha yes, just search the last hundred posts that have both him and I speaking.

We have a love hate relationship with no love and all hate because everything he says is truth, and the best

I'm sure he'll jump on in here in a few seconds.......wait for it.....wait for it...............

[eviloxygen]

what area of NY are you from?? I'm near Binghamton. Curious if you were anywhere close, its nice to meet knowledgable pet people near by!

[MoonkiePie]

y'all are too funny. thanks, i needed kind reassurance that there are others like me, before i went to bed tonight!

[MoonkiePie]

what area of NY are you from?? I'm near Binghamton. Curious if you were anywhere close, its nice to meet knowledgable pet people near by!
oh, poo. i'm in westchester county. not *too* far, but far enough not to meet for coffee!!

[eviloxygen]

aww oh well worth a try! Have a good night, and i'm sure tommorow bob-o will have some more amazing posts for us!

[MoonkiePie]

yeah, wow.... i was just reading some of his diatribe on pitbulls...... oy.....

[eviloxygen]

:) yes.

Well i'm quite surprised he hasnt graced us with his presence yet!

[K9BOB]

"but puppymills are also a thriving, greed-driven business. i believe it is imperative that people look to shelters first, then rescue groups (also breed-specific rescues) before they pay someone to *build a pet for them*. "
we can agree on puppy mills --It is important that you now focus on dogs soley for pets which you omitted previously .is'nt it interesting how things change when you stop generalizing and start becoming more specific?;")
..what about pets that you want/need/desire health history on?
what about pets that do not have the temperment that you desire?
what about those abused pets that you speak of that have not been throughly evaulated or rehabed for specific issues/
what if you want a pet with health checks and titles so that you can use for your specific needs?
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but passing over an animal with a history of abuse is, in my opinion, missing an opportunity."
It again depends on weather the dog is mentally balanced at the moment of acquisition after having been abused.

"would never kennel my dog and i, thankfully, have the resources to have him cared for the way that *i* feel is best for him"
not everyone falls into the SAME catagory as do you or I...and again your generalities bear scruntiny..

And nevermind evil she just cannot handle handle debate without reference to my character..
I love you evil...

"would much rather support a shelter than a breeder (even a reputable one). And I advise people to do the same..."
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I would never trust my dog to a rescue or breeder or kennel or anyone else untill I have throughly evaluated there experience/abilities/ and track record. that is what makes my argument different from several of yours....
And I really do find your personal comments to my character a compliment rather than an insult..
especially evils comments..they make my day and are the only reason I like using (SPENDING MY PRECIOUS TIME AND ENERGY ) my equal opportunity to debate/argue/disagree and learn from peoples opinions in this forum...
I apologize if I offend anyone with my disagreements or opinions with opposing or agreeable Information..

And evil that is a lame manuver ( not to intelligent--just my opinion) to use the fact that I would reply since I am already famous for that..Am I not? I am surprised that you would waste your precious time on such diatribe..
k9bob

[K9BOB]

I hope you guys can find a way and get together and have some coffee over me, thats great that I can induce such strong bonding behavior..;')
goodnight evil...sweet dreams
k9bob

[MoonkiePie]

"desire health history on?"
"temperment that you desire?"
"your specific needs?"

"your generalities bear scruntiny." yes, YOUR generalizations DO bear scrutiny. okay, bobby, if you'd like to play the generalization game -- not everyone focuses on WHAT THEY DESIRE. for some people, it's about rescuing the animal. hence the terms "rescue" and "shelter."

for some reason, you decided to come on in and pee in my sandbox. i am not here to get into confrontations with anyone, i am here to state my opinion and hear that of others. apparently, you think it's important to confront others on their beliefs and play semantics because, perhaps, you feel you fall short in some other area of your life. go do whatever it is you like to do, and let me do what i like to do. simple enough.

[Punkygirl0101]

Bob.. So far, no one here agrees with you. We are all ANIMAL lovers, and we don't like to see animals without homes, so we adopt from shelters and rescues. Not everyone wants a dog that can do agility and be perfectly trained! Some people really don't care.

Why don't you try and volunteer at a shelters. You seem like the kind of person ALL about purebred dogs from breeders... we here, want to SAVE lives, not contribute to lives being destroyed!!

[K9BOB]

you have your agendas and i have mine.

Care to debate them..again?
I just love it when females call me Bobby...
type it again..please!

k9bob

[K9BOB]

punkiegirl I do not need to provide you a list of what I do or do not do with or for dogs.. my arguments and opinions stand/fall on there own without the side bar issues... and by the way i do not get into agility dogs.. where did you get that? and where did you get the purebred stuff???/
k9bob

[K9BOB]

Don't be so offended if your belief system is challeged or attacked ,it is what makes the world go round and also what keeps people from thinking it's flat.
k9bob

[K9BOB]

You guys are pushing me to become an elitist dog/animal lover and if you keep it up you might induce me to join PETA and really start judging your abusing butts...
Don't make me do that girlfriends cause your generalities won't amount to a hill of beans then..

k9bob

[Pinkbubble283]

okey dokey.. this thread has turned...

[K9BOB]

this link proves that i do not get into agility dogs
http://www.darnfar.com/Agility_Lamb.htm
k9bob

[Punkygirl0101]

that lamb is absolutely adorable.

Can I ask you a question bob? Do you veiw your sheep as pets, or just as tools to train your dogs?

[Shrelana]

and that proves you don't get into agility.......HOW?

[K9BOB]

honestly? We have sheep that are pets with names and are treated as such, we use sheep,ducks,geese,(other dogs) and cats to train dogs, we use/sell sheep for 4H projects/education projects, and sadly we use sheep to use/sell as food for RAW dog diets and for human consumption..

k9bob

[K9BOB]

"this link proves that i do not get into agility dogs"

Well because I personnally find no use for agility and it causes problems in general with training an above average herding dog. And second this is lamb agility not dog agility.;')

[Punkygirl0101]

See.. i find the fact that you raise sheep to sell in dog foods as extremely cruel. i do not find people that eat meat cruel, but if you can take all the time it takes to raise these animals, just to have it killed.. that I do not understand one bit!!

And when you say you use ducks and geese to train dogs... I am assuming the birds get injured?

And that you not only SELL the sheep for other people to kill... but i am assuming that "We use sheep as food for raw diets" means you kill sheep yourself? How could you have sheep as pets, and then kill sheep? How do you chose which sheep are your pets, and which are going to die?

[Punkygirl0101]

I respect people that can take the time and patience it takes training dogs!! I respect them alot. I have little patience...BUT the respect I had for you went down the drain... Any person that can kill another living thing is cruel, as is a person that raises these animals so they can be killed.

I am no member of PETA, and i don't try and shove my beliefs down others throats.. but I seriously just don't understand how someone could do that....

[MoonkiePie]

okay k9bob. you're on my ignore list. yayyyyyyy... go pee somewhere else.

[MoonkiePie]

you're too funny, pinkbubble. sorry bob had to pee on your thread!

[K9BOB]

Well for educational purposes the ones that are used for RAW dog diets are the ones that are culled for improving the flock/breed. Yes logically it can be considered cruel to be a part of ANY animals death to include experimentation to better human life and for food/other purposes.. But since dogs need/want/desire/do better with eating meat what we do? We simply choose the lessor of two evils,sorta like voting for someone/politician who does a lot of disagreeable things and you wish you had another choice/or just do not vote..???
We do insure that our animals/sheep are well cared for and eat really good food with no meat/by-products cause sheep are not healthy eating all that other stuff that other people feed there sheep.
We are a USDA liscensed facility and as such are not allowed/and do not kill animals on our property-they are sent to the transition facility (butcher) for that.... It is kind of like not being the one who puched the button when sending someone to the elctric chair but was the juror who voted yes on the sentencing.
Having sheep as pets is like having any animal as a pet and then eating another animal,thats why PETA is a better/more ethically logical animals rights organization (in general).
It depends on how smart the individual sheep is and what our goals are at any given time. Some sheep are prettier,bigger,faster,easier trained,funnier,or special in some other way depending on the circumstances that results in being treated as pets rather than the other things...
The ones that will die are the genectically challenged/less healthy,dumber,and sometimes too smart ones....The fastest way to get on that list is to jump the 6 foot fence when in herding training rather than let the dogs herd them...for example..
for the most parts the birds do not get injured but maybe once or twice a year a bird gets gripped too hard and has to be put down....Ever seen a hunting dog grip a bird too hard? it happens..oops i thibnk those are already dead....sorry..
geese can get pretty nasty with dogs/animals/humans and dogs have to be trained to grip them momentarily to establish respect and sometimes the ones with less than healthy necks can be killed, but that is rare...with a good trained dog..
We have have never had a cat killed by even the most aggresive cat killing dfog that has been brought in for feline rehab....sso they are lucky..
A lot of prestage proofing gopes on here before the dogs get tested however..

Hope that answers some of your questions..
we do have other animals to include cattle to which we have not yet designated one as a PET... We just use those for training and later as food...

Thats not to say that one day I would not find a cow or one of my chickens that I would declare a pet.
Hope that answers some of your questions..

I am/was thinking about joining PETA as you know,it depends on how much I am induced to do so while using this forum for character feedback. The only problem is that I would have to get a divorce and change my profession to a PETA undercover agent or activist... And that would exhaust me as there are so many people out there abusing animals/dogs, feeding them other animals,locking them in cages and crates,using aversive tools and training methods (squirting water in there eyes/mouths and making them do things they do not want to do)...
Also for your information i do not eat sheep myself because I simply do not like the taste and have not acquired such a taste. I do eat chickens,frogs,cows,pigs,and several other animals I probably should not mention that would break the camels back when considering what people think of me already for what I have admitted too here.
oh I did eat a lizard and a gold fish once when I was younger and intoxicated.. But they were not anyones pet.. You don't drink coffee by any chance do you???

;')
k9Bob

[Punkygirl0101]

Theres another thing... How could you spend all that time and MONEY on these sheep just to sell them to get killed? I know dogs need to eat meat, and i feed my dogs dog food with meat in it, the point is , I do NOT kill these animals, NOR do I raise them and sell them to someone else to kill them...


Wow, I cannot believe what I am hearing.. because an animal is not as smart, or pretty as another, it deserves to die? Well, there are people who are ugly, and stupid, and not funny.. should they be killed?

So if a sheep is TOO smart, it also deserves to die?

I don't care if you are NOT killing the sheep yourself, you are still majorly supporting their death...

Now, i do not eat meat, nor have I ever harmed an animal in anyway, I have a heart!

[Punkygirl0101]

Also, culling is on my list of cruel things..

[K9BOB]

You would make a perfect poster girl for PETA if you just did not do a few of the things that you admit to supporting here in cyberspace... When/if I become a PETA recruiter I will contact you and we can work on fixing those and hopefully pay you for your service...
have a nice day..
k9bob

[K9BOB]

You do realize that if you quite supporting/inducing the meat supply that you need to feed your dog you could put the meat people out of service..do you not?
k9bob

[Punkygirl0101]

Actually.. i may not be a PAYING member, but I do receive emails from them, and stickers!! And who cares if i am animal lover.. atleast I don't support killing things.....

[Punkygirl0101]

Actually.. i highly doubt the meat service would go out of business.. since SOO many people eat it..

i think that if someone really wants to eat meat, they should have to raise and kill the animals themselves,,,, then SOO many more people wouldn;t eat meat.

(still, I do not hate people that eat meat, I don't eat it for moral reasons...)

[Shrelana]

I don't get how you listing a website proves that you don't get into dog agility.....is it your website or something? if so, why didn't you say so in the post which you posted it?
And I'm gonna have to agree w/ punky here....just because something isn't as pretty, or as smart, or is "too" smart...it does NOT deserve to die....Just like I can't stand the thougth that everytime my folks find some baby skunks on their property, they don't call animal control, they just kill them all....It ticks me off, but there is not really anything I can do about int....ok, rant done for now....

[K9BOB]

And quit paying people to kill animals for your dogs food too I hope..
And fish are animals too...

[K9BOB]

I also point out in my ramblings on breeding dogs for title that agility is a worthless attribute soley for breeding...in general..maybe someone can point out the specifics..
k9bob

[K9BOB]

well My precious time has run out and all of the KENNEL DOGS are sleeping nicely with the cats so I guess I better sign off, but as evil said..I"LL BE BACK!

goodnight friends..
k9bob

[Jennicat]

Actually.. i highly doubt the meat service would go out of business.. since SOO many people eat it..

i think that if someone really wants to eat meat, they should have to raise and kill the animals themselves,,,, then SOO many more people wouldn;t eat meat.

(still, I do not hate people that eat meat, I don't eat it for moral reasons...)


Punky, I'm really confused here. You say that if someone really wants to eat meat, they should have to raise and kill the animals themselves. K9BOB just said that's what he did, and you jumped down his throat?

The sheep he raises live a good, humane, life. And then they are humanely slaughtered for meat. I don't see a problem with that. It's certainly better than the factory farm conditions that most dog food companies support.

[Chaos]

*blink*

Whoa, off topic much?

How could you have sheep as pets, and then kill sheep? How do you chose which sheep are your pets, and which are going to die?

The exact same way that people who keep snakes and raise rats for food do.

And hun, culling is a part of life... nature, the strong and perfect survive, the weak die and become nourishment.

Unlike 99% of the meat the rest of the population eats, k9bobs sheep get to feel grass, breeze, and enjoy life, not cramped into a tiny cage or stall until they're killed. How can you be against that?

I'm honestly at a loss as to why everyone is up in arms.

[eviloxygen]

i dont know some members on this board just have that effect i guess.......

either way this thread is nothing like what it was, and because of all the members on this thread i'm sure it'll continue this way for some time.

Bob i actually like that you raise the sheep, one part of your site i was quite interested in. Its part of life punky people eat meat, and people feed there dog raw food, and i would much rather buy raw food from someone i know, who raises the food and ensures that it is good quality food then some random butcher who just ships it to my house.

And bob we weren't gonna have coffee and talk about you, your head has gotten a bit to big over the last few months :) but thats ok i still love you too

[K9BOB]

I am blushing ..A big head equals a bigger kiss..Lol
If we lived closer I would however set down and have a cup of Iced coffee with you evil, I bet we have a lot more in common than it would appear.
have a good one.
k9bob

[Kimmy85]

I think that is one of the most interesting threads I have ever read!

[Pinkbubble283]

lol, I think it is too! it totally turned around...

[K9BOB]

Well things should be turned around more often if they are interesting reads,don't you think? LOL

I like things from the rear perspective sometimes, it makes the information more complete although smelly...I think...
yea!
Yes I know my comments comes from an asses opinion, but at least I have learned to live with it..

k9Bob
k9bob

[Spudnik]

Interesting discussions!

Spud agrees with Jenni, Chaos and evil on the sheep thing.

[Punkygirl0101]

Well, how about we turn in BACK around. How are the puppies doing Pink? Got any recent photos?

[Punkygirl0101]

i just realised, that wouldn't be turning it back around, but changing the subject again! ;)

[Shrelana]

hey, it all works :D

[FemaleCheetah]

I noticed that when Jennitcat, Chaos, and Evil came on and said their part, Punkygirl didn't want to talk about the subject anymore....hmmmm lol what a change around! Glad this thread will come to an end!

[K9BOB]

ME too..I got my butt kicked hard on this one..
I am throwing in the towel...;')
k9bob

[Punkygirl0101]

I don't like arguing with anyone, especially people that give me great advice like Jennicat and Chaos!!

[K9BOB]

If I gave you some great advice would you at least have some coffee with me, we could still argue and be friends.?/
oops i will shut up...
It's just that I kinda of like the coffee concept,it makes me feel warm inside..
sorry..
k9bob

[Punkygirl0101]

LOL..Anybody else HATE coffee like I do? By the way, I realize I was wrong. I would also MUCH rather the sheep live on grass, and have a good life BEFORE they are killed, then live crammed in a cage, in horrible conditions before...

To knowing when to shut up *lifts glass*

[Punkygirl0101]

Even though I think your signature is mocking me...

;)

[K9BOB]

actually my signature is tecnically correct..it just depends on ones perpestive on life.
i will remove it....

I do not like regular coffe either, thats why I only drink Iced coffee...lots of milk with it too please.. not because I am a cold hearted person..;')

k9bob

[MoonkiePie]

yes, pinkbubble, how is your dog doing now? :D

i hope all is well.

[eviloxygen]

Well i would have coffee with you all if we were anywhere near each other, unfortunatly i think the closest person to me is mookiepie, but still to far for a drink, and i prefer my coffee with a few shots of, well not expresso if you catch my drift.

bob i'm sure we have way to much in common, most likely why we are how we are. Doesnt bother me though, i enjoy it and i'm sure you do to. Good thing we're both happily married.......

[K9BOB]

Yes you are right Jennifer, as Martha would say, it is a GOOD THING that we are both happily married as I could see myself sharing a bone with you...but not sharing a web with you however as I might not survive the bliss... Your husband is lucky to have you.. even if you are the Alpha...

Lets just say you and I can make like Donald and Martha...oops Martha and Donald...;')

We can just keep everyone guessing...;?
best regards
k9bob

[Pinkbubble283]

the Rambo is doing great, and the puppies.. well, they couldn't be better.. I went to my sisters today and vistied the pups.. and oh my gosh, they are the cutest little burgers!! Xena.. shes doing great too... there alll doing great.

[asta7775]

I haven't read all the post as there are soo many so if someone else already said this sorry. From my exprience and 10yrs in a vet hospital it looks from the picture that it could be a hotspot and its not something you can fix on your own. You need to see a vet. If it is a hotspot it will only get worse and never get better, he/she will need oral antibiotics usually cephalexin and the area will have to be shaved, cleaned and then a topical spray will need to be applied. Neosporin will not do anything. As for ringworm, it doesn't usually get scabby, take a smell of the area if its smelly then it more than likely a hotspot. If there was something you could do on your own I would mention it but for something like that you just can't. Hotspot's are quite common on long haired dog and ones with a thick coat like labs. If its not a hotspot she cold have gotten bit by something and it irritated the area and she make be over scratching but it is now at the point where you will need the help of a vet.

[danigirl1031]

the Rambo is doing great, and the puppies.. well, they couldn't be better.. I went to my sisters today and vistied the pups.. and oh my gosh, they are the cutest little burgers!! Xena.. shes doing great too... there alll doing great.


Post another picture of the "ringworm" please. i wanna see how well it healed up.

And Glad to hear Xena and the pups are doing great...and hopefully, they will be doing even better AFTER getting spayed and neutered!! :D

[MoonkiePie]

great, pinkbubble! thanks for updating! can you photo the ringworm thingy again just out of curiosity?

[Pinkbubble283]

Heres his spot.. I just took it like one minute ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/Bubblehead1123/RhondasPicturesOnly012.jpg

sorry if its huge.. (the picture that is.)

[MoonkiePie]

thanks! looks good! keep us posted........

[Pinkbubble283]

thanks... If you compare it to it when he first got it.. Oh my gosh, itsl ike a hundred times better.

[Kimmy85]

My dog had some spots like that last summer. He had gotten into a pile of branches and misc crap that my neighbour so nicely left when he cut down his trees. I didn't notice because it is in the back 40 of my yard behind grape vines. My vet told me it was hot spots and it was probably from getting bit by something. He had one on his neck and one on his lower back. I took him in as soon as I noticed it and he gave me little blue pills (not viagra though;)) and blue cream to put on it. You have to watch stuff like that closely because even though it might seem like it is getting better it could still be infected and cause the dog pain. But it does look alot better. Good stuff.

[danigirl1031]

he gave me little blue pills (not viagra though;))


LMAO and how do you know what viagra looks like?

[Kimmy85]

:eek: Uhhhh. No kidding. I read....books and stuff. And all those ads on tv!!!! It is so uncomfortable watching tv anymore with parents or grandparents lol.

[Pinkbubble283]

lol Kimmy I know.. my parents me and one of my sisters will be watching tv, and a viagra conmercial will come on.. lol, I look at my sister and she looks at me and covers her laugh.. lol, they should keep that kind of stuff.. not on tv..