A few questions

[Pinkbubble283]

I have a few questions about dogs..

My mom said that they said you can get them spayed at six months, but she said she's not going to get her spayed that early because she would still be growing and my mom just doesn't what to do it then.... so.. isn't like eight months or somthing like that? and also, how old are they when they go into heat?

Thanks.. :)

[lneill84]

Get them spayed at 6 months, unless your vet recommends you to wait. Your mom isn't an expert-if your vet feels that the bitch can benefit from an extra month or so, then fine. I do believe bitches can go into heat at around 8 months or so, depending on the breed. Do not wait for her to get her first heat, and then spay her

[mr gerbil]

Do it at 6 months before she goes into heat. The fact that the dog may still be growing a bit doesn't really matter :).

[Pinkbubble283]

so it won't mess up any of her hormones or anything like that?


she deffienetly is a bitch... although she is only 10 weeks old.. shes kinda grouchy.. lol.. she trys to kill me.. and I can call her a bitch without feeling bad... hehehe

[lneill84]

You essentially don't want her to get any of the hormones that surge through the body during a heat cycle. Dogs who are not neutered or spayed, or even spayed/neutered late have a huge incidence of reproductive cancers.

[Pinkbubble283]

ok.. thanks alot.. I'll tell my mom..

Thanks again. :)

[ronald]

that sounds about right

[KTS CAVIES]

Two of our girls were spayed at 12 weeks, our boy was neutered at 8 weeks.

Our other girl was suppose to be spayed at 8 weeks, but the vet ended up in the hospital and the spay was post poned. A few days before her newly scheduled surgery she went into heat. She was 16 weeks (4 months).

All of ours were altered before 6 months, there is no reason to wait longer.

[maryjane238]

the only dogs that should be spayed/neutered later are large/giant breeds (over 100 lbs at maturity). they do need more time to allow the growth plates to develop. i neutered my 105 lb gsd mix at 10 months.

females can go into heat anytime between 6-12 months. 8-9 months is the average time. you might want to ask the breeder how old your pup's mother was at the time of her first heat.

[asta7775]

I agree with maryjane, and with everyone else if she's not a large/giant breed. If she is a large/giant breed it would be a good idea to feed a large breed puppy food to help with bone development or to give a calcium supplement to help with the proper bone development, but I would ask your vet about that.

[maryjane238]

actually, most breeders of large/giant breeds will suggest starting an adult dog food at around 4 months now. of course, i did everything right and ty's got dysplasia in both hips and arthritis in the right hip and he's only 2 so you never know!

[asta7775]

I only mentioned the large breed puppy food/ calcium supplements as that's what the vets I worked for suggested, I guess the large breed puppy food is to help slow down the growth process a bit so the bones have a chance to catch up with everything else. I guess that's what feeding adult food early is suppose to do to or so I have heard, but like you said you never know. I am sorry to hear that ty has those problems at such a young age, but at least he has you as an owner who is knowlegable and not someone who would be quick to give up on him.

[Shrelana]

If dogs are anything like horses, it's best to s/n early because the hormones will go toward growth (or at least that's what the vet told us when we got a colt gelded)....and that means that her growth will not be hindered by an early spay

[maryjane238]

oh yeah, asta, he's my baby! he's not going anywhere! i bottle raised him...he's laying on his football blanket squeaking on a stuffed bone right now. i'm at work, he comes with me almost every day. the surgeon said at this point he may or may not need surgery. he's on synovi & 3v caps (apparently high doses of fatty acids may help joints as well) and rimadyl before we do any heavy exercising. here's his pic (probably won't work b/c i'm an idiot with computers but i'll give it a try!)

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j8/MaryJane238/Tyler.jpg

[maryjane238]

ahh! i did it! yeah!

[asta7775]

He's a very handsome boy...ahh the bonous of working in a clinic. I don't have a dog...yet(not the right time) but all the girls would bring their dogs to work, some everyday some just on the same day every week. The bosses would sometimes do it to and no one ever cared and the clients loved it as they seem to be really interested in what the staff's pets look like. I notice you set your cages up the same way the places I worked at did, paper and a blanket; I visited one place where they had nothing but the ice cold, hard stainless steel to ly on and no hot water bottles or blanket while recovering after surgery; would never go there and told other's not to...its just mean.

Sorry to the op for going off topic.

[maryjane238]

ugh - yeah...i have a comforter down that ty is laying on right now. that's just mean to make an animal recover from surgery on cold steel!

[Pinkbubble283]

uhhh.. shes a shih tzu.. if you have ever seen shih tzu's.. they are small dogs.. we are going to raise her the same way we raised Rambo, feed her the same, and we will spay her when she is eight months old.. Rambo couldn't be more heathly :).. now... unless the vet sugggests that we spay her early.. we would think about it, but I see nothing wrong with waiting.

[PixieDust]

omg Asta is gorgeous btw, very pretty =D

anyway, i think you shouldnt wait very long to get her spayed. her growth wont be hindered and its better to get it done before first heat season. all our females are done before it and i recommend that. this has already mostly been said but anyway lol

[lneill84]

anyway, i think you shouldnt wait very long to get her spayed. her growth wont be hindered and its better to get it done before first heat season. all our females are done before it and i recommend that. this has already mostly been said but anyway lol

Its ok-PinkBubble won't listen anyway. 8 months is too late to get a puppy spayed, everyone has told you reasons why, and she refuses to listen. Once she comes into her first heat cycle, her chances of developing repro cancers later in life get extremely high.

[LUVMYSWISSY]

It's never too late to spay or neuter.

My Vet believes that you can do either at any age. He choose 16 weeks for both my Pug (female) and my Greater Swiss Mtn. Dog male - who at the time was 80 lbs, now he is 150lb. So even with a large breed it is alright.

[LUVMYSWISSY]

Oppss. I meant 5 months, 20 weeks.

[FemaleCheetah]

Zoe was spayed at 1 1/2 years cause we had some financial problems the 1st year and a half I was here and Katie is scheduled to be spayed on the 26th of this month but she has already had one heat cycle and she is 1 year and 2 months but hey its getting done asap... again our car had broken down in In nov-dec time frame and the last few months we had to pay the city $900 plus partial payment on my braces which was another $1200 but now that I FINALLY have the $$$$ she is being spayed, I especially wanted to get it done before her next heat cycle because she was crazy when she was in heat so I dont EVER wanna go through that again and the main reason is for her health.

[Punkygirl0101]

We just got Reese spayed, she just came home a few hours ago. She is 7 months old. I think this was a good time to spay her. 7 months is the usual time we get our dogs speutered.

[Pinkbubble283]

no iniel.. you have something against me.. I don't know what I did.. but you do, and thats just your problem.

We have always gotten our dogs spayed at 7/8 months.. I can't change my moms mind about it.. and we will get her spayed before she goes into heat.. now, all I asked iniel is how old they are when they go in heat and when they should get fixed.. I got my answers.. (btw thanks everyone for the answers :) ...) we may get her spayed soon but I highly doubt it.. she is my dog, not yours (iniel) dont even start with that crap again about how I abuse my animals.

[Punkygirl0101]

they can go in heat from 5-9 months. I have had dogs go into heat really early, and some that don't go into heat til they are almost a year old.

[lneill84]

no iniel.. you have something against me.. I don't know what I did.. but you do, and thats just your problem.

We have always gotten our dogs spayed at 7/8 months.. I can't change my moms mind about it.. and we will get her spayed before she goes into heat.. now, all I asked iniel is how old they are when they go in heat and when they should get fixed.. I got my answers.. (btw thanks everyone for the answers :) ...) we may get her spayed soon but I highly doubt it.. she is my dog, not yours (iniel) dont even start with that crap again about how I abuse my animals.

funny that you jump right to animal abuse again. Everyone told you to get her spayed asap. I would think that with your history of having random animals have babies, you would want to listen to a vet, and the very knowledgable chunk of people on this board. But alas, mummy is always right huh? "Soon, you are going to be posting another "OMG SHES PREGNANT HOW DID THIS HAPPEN" thread, and we all will shake our heads.

[Pinkbubble283]

uhh. one animal got pregnant.. ONE... and my puppy will not get pregnant.. it won't be possible, unless I let roam around the neighbor hood which won't happen.. and no, there won't be a "omg she's pregnant how did this happen" thread.. that was just stupid to say.

[maryjane238]

it is very possible for an intact female to get pregnant without the owner letting them roam. it happens everyday. not saying it will necesarily happen to your dog but don't say it's not possible b/c mistakes happen!

[Pinkbubble283]

yeah, I know its possble.. but there aren't any dogs that roam around this neighbor hood, and Sheena will never be let out without a leash.. I'm just saying, I don't see her getting pregnant.

[maryjane238]

you'd be amazed at the dogs that come out of the woodwork when there is a female dog around! that smell....it's like me when someone is baking cookies or grilling a big fat steak! it just smells delicious to them! and their noses work a lot better than mine so they can smell a female in heat from a mile away.
do you mind if i ask why you decided to go with your mom's idea? or does she just have the final say in the decision?

[lneill84]

All it takes is about a minute for a dog to get pregnant. Please stop breeding irresponsibly, honestly, there are enough dogs in the world that need homes. Get all your animals spayed and neutered at the age appropriate time, and be responsible

[Pinkbubble283]

one thing ineill.. don't tell me what to do... and I'VE never breeded irresponsibly. I would never breed a dog. I know there are so many animals out there that need good homes.. I told my sister that if her husband wanted another dog, and he wanted her to breed the dog again.. to bad, if he wants another dog, he can go rescue one..

Maryjane.. its my moms say in the matter, I'm 15, I can't realy do anything so..... that sucks..

[Spudnik]

Ugh. I get so frustrated when people use age as an excuse for being closed minded.

And before you rant about how you are open minded:

uhhh.. shes a shih tzu.. if you have ever seen shih tzu's.. they are small dogs.. we are going to raise her the same way we raised Rambo, feed her the same, and we will spay her when she is eight months old.. Rambo couldn't be more heathly :).. now... unless the vet sugggests that we spay her early.. we would think about it, but I see nothing wrong with waiting.

Here, you show that you have completely ignored all of the advice that has been given to you. If you insist on doing this, why bother asking for comments in the first place?

You've already made it clear that your mum loves animals. As this is the case, you can persuade her to get your pup spayed ASAP by explaining the health benefits, as well as the risks that come with spaying after the first heat. You are FIFTEEN years of age. You CAN do something.

[Pinkbubble283]

dude. you dont know my mom.. shes hard headed.. I can't change her mind. I have told her that when they go into heat, there is much more chances of them getting cancer ect. when they get older.. but she doesn't believe it.. so no.. there isn't anything I can do.

[lneill84]

Well, if you had a responsible vet, he would insist that the dog get spayed at 6 months-hell my vet has a brochure explaining the procedure and what it entails. But then again, if your vet allowed your sister to breed two dogs with no experience and no quality in the dogs, im not surprised you don't have much of a relationship with them

[Pinkbubble283]

nope.. My vet is very good :) we have the same guy everytime we go there, and they will send us a post card thingy when she needs to get spayed.. again, I just tried talking my mom into it again, but she just won't.. don't worry though, i will bother her about it everyday until she gives in.. hehehhe :)

[Punkygirl0101]

Pinkbubble, just a question, but how old was sheena when you took her away from her mother and sibling? That could be the cause of her behavioral issues.

[Pinkbubble283]

Oh.. believe me, thats not it. When Sheena was nursing, she would try to shove Daisy out of the way to get the milk.. she has always been like that.. But we got her when she was about seven weeks old.

[Punkygirl0101]

Well, seven weeks is too young. They should leave their mother and siblings at 10-12 weeks. Their siblings teach each other about not biting hard, and the momma teaches them things that are important. They learn valuable things up to age 12 weeks that they can't be taught by humans. (or atleast its not easy to teach them.)

I know its too late now, and there won't be a next time. But if you get another dog, if the breeder allows people to take them sooner than 10 weeks, don't get a puppy from them.

[Pinkbubble283]

yeah.. but thats not why shes like that.

Edit: and anyway, shes growing out of it.. shes becoming sweet :) which is nice. :)

[Shrelana]

Pink, why do you have a frowny face next to Sheena's name in ur sig?

[ronald]

well, i think its great how people come onto this forum and asks questions and so forth.

Some people like myself get misinterpreted so others get all worked up about stuff. Pinkbubbles, even though many people on this forum are correct about spraying and neutering your dog, its always best to go to professional help ie. Your vet. Regardless of what your mother says, you should listen to your vet.

Potentially it sounds like this is your dog, and even though you are 15, your dog is your responsbility. =)
You should bring up the idea to your mother about having a consultation with a vet to straighten things out so your mum as well as you will be able to gain knowledge and guidance from a professional.

All the best and good luck with it. Dont be too disheartened about comments. No one in this forum is against you, they are all very devoted and passionate about animals. But always think to go to a vet, even though there are great advise given in this forum. =)

[Punkygirl0101]

Shrelana, I asked the same thing. She said because she is nippy, and misbehaving.

Also, her new cat Newavo has been given away by her dad because he wasn't using the cat box. (but he/she s still in her sig.)

[lneill84]

nope.. My vet is very good :) we have the same guy everytime we go there, and they will send us a post card thingy when she needs to get spayed.. again, I just tried talking my mom into it again, but she just won't.. don't worry though, i will bother her about it everyday until she gives in.. hehehhe :)
any vet that had any sort of conscious, and was responsible would have strongly encouraged that two unpapered, unhealth-tested and unshown dogs not be bred. He would have also made everyone aware in the situation that a puppy SHOULD NOT be taken from its mother at 7 weeks of age. So, she's biting and nipping now, are you gonna get rid of her like the cat? Every single problem that any of your animals have had is a direct result of your or your family's lack of care. If a normally healthy cat stops using the litter box, something is wrong-either the box isn't clean enough, they have a health problem or there is some other factor making them detest the litter box. A 7 week old puppy is naturally going to bite-they never learned essential behavior from their mothers. There is also a greater chance they will have health problems and a weakened immune system. You were already asking for problems breeding two dogs that weren't health tested to begin with, and then you take a puppy at 7 weeks, and then refuse to spay it. If your mom had a brain in her skull, she would listen to a vet, one that went to school for years, and realize whats best for the animals.

[ronald]

im sorry but even though i agree about all that is said about neutering and responsibilities as a dog owner, i believe Ineill is going to far.

I might not know what other threads she has posted but this forum is for advice only not for you to directly attack her fmaily and mother. Keep your remarks to yourself. Got nothing good to say, then dont say it. However, Ineill I agree with you that she and her family should listen to the vet since he is qualified and knows whats wrong and right.

[lneill84]

Her sister bred to unpapered, unhealth-tested and non-shown dogs for "fun". She now has taken a puppy about a month too early from the mom and wonders why she is having problems. Enough is enough-i sometimes wonder if she makes everything up just to cause drama. Any responsible vet would tell them flat out not to breed poor quality dogs-they might be wonderful and special to you, but they will do nothing to help the breed, which is the intent of breeding dogs. It gets sickening to hear her tales over and over, and realize that she just doesnt get it. Talk to some of the people on here that do everything in their power to rescue unwanted dogs, with the majority never even getting a chance of a good home, and then wonder why i have a problem with people that won't spay and neuter

[Punkygirl0101]

Ronald, I happen to agree with Ineil. I have seen every thread pinkbubble has posted, and they pretty much are all about her not giving proper care to her pets. She had a cat die from bladder stones that would have easily be treated if she would have taken the cat to a vet. When she asks us for advice, she doesn't listen to it..she still does what she wants. Whats the point of asking for advice if you are still going to do everything your way?

[Pinkbubble283]

okay.. Ineill.. I have come to the conclusions.. that you are just a snobby brat.

Rambo, the dog I have now.. We got him when he was eight weeks and hes the sweetest thing.. Panda, my little darling baby, I got her she was a few days old.. the puppie is fiesty, its her personality.. I didn't come on her to discuss or get help because of her personality, infact, i think its kinda cool because if someone ticks her off she lets them know..

I will call my vet and ask them when I should get her spayed.. and Ineill, she didn't breed her for 'fun'.

[Punkygirl0101]

She didn't breed her to better the breed... so she had to have been doing it for fun, or just because she had a dog that wasn't fixed, or because she wanted "cute little puppies".

[Pinkbubble283]

she breeded her because she wanted more shih tzu puppies... I was against it, I said if she wanted more puppies she should of gotten them from a shelter or somthing, but it was to late... anyway, It was only two puppies, its not like there were seven or somthing.

[Pinkbubble283]

oh and, we aren't going to breed anymore aniamls anymore.. Im gonna call the vet myself, find out when they need to get spayed.. so.. you have nothing to worry about.

[lneill84]

she breeded her because she wanted more shih tzu puppies... I was against it, I said if she wanted more puppies she should of gotten them from a shelter or somthing, but it was to late... anyway, It was only two puppies, its not like there were seven or somthing.

Doesnt matter the amount of puppies that she had, its still two more puppies in the world that are unpapered and crappily bred. Thank god she only had two, because there are enough issues with shih tzus. She had to be breeding for the "fun" of it. I doubt that your "awesome" vet will have any helpful information for you, considering the fact he supported you breeding two mediocre dogs, and did not make sure that anyone was aware of the proper care for puppies. You gave an animal away because it was suddenly not using the litter box, allowed an animal to die because of simple bladder stones, and bred unsuitable dogs-it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out i don't hold you in very high regard. Im sure that your dogs are lovely-no one is saying that they aren't-but they aren't perfect enough to be bred, and reproduce, and in actuality, i bet many dogs, even show dogs, shouldn't be reproducing. There are enough dogs in the world-spay and neuter your animals, and take them to the vet when they need it-its not that hard.

[K9BOB]

I think that any VET who educates a client or people on breeding and hopefully discourages people from ir-responsible breeding is an "AWESOME" vet otherwise the vet is something less than in my opinion... And I know some Vets who just cannot or do not want to alienate a client but my hats off to the ones who do...
K9bob

[Pinkbubble283]

I'm done with you ineill.. forget this whole stupid thread, I'm going to find a new pet message board...
sure, you give wonderful info.. but sometimes, you go to far.. I'm just so sick of you and punkygirl.. I'm through with you guys... Adios.

[lneill84]

Good for you-isn't it wonderful we live in an age where there are many places for you to go? Why don't you let the new message board know everything about you, the lies, and the neglect, and see how well they treat you there?

[m0usey]

I'm going to post the same thing here I posted on one of the other threads:
Guys, the point of Petshub is to inform people about pets and be helpful, not to go around yelling at people and telling them about how awful they are at owning! All that does is get them mad and make them want to ignore you, not make the changes you think they should make.

People would be much more open to taking your ideas about caring for pets if you weren't so rude about it, and that goes to quite a few people on this forum.

If someone asks for advice, and you give it, then they don't take it, so be it! There's really nothing else you can do, and bugging them about it definitely not going to help.

I think PinkBubble would have been much more open and tried much harder to convince her mom if there were not stupid comments about other threads and how she's been not taking care of her SISTER'S dog (not hers) and how her vet stinks. I know if I asked a question and were on the recieving end of all those comments, I wouldn't want to have anything to do with this forum either.

So consider that next time you're yelling at someone because you want their pet to be doing better and not the same, or worse.

[ronald]

thank you mousey,

i've been trying to get that message across to these people and they just ignore it. All they consider straight away is how unfit dog owners and then use this judgement portray all dog owners. As such all the advice they give seems to be "rude" and critical making the OP feel crap.

Instead they should help and not demoralise people. I understand that they all are very passionate about their animals however, keeping differences and judgements aside, this forum is for help and advise, not for rudeness and insults.

[lneill84]

I automatically hold people at a lower standard when they neglect their animals and are irresponsible an lie. Ronald, you were not even around when PinkBubble first started this crap. I suggest you run a search on her thread about the puppies, as well as the thread about her cat, and then see what you think of her.

[ronald]

i might search it, but i dont think it matters. i believe you about her past threads, but what about others in this forums that you have held at a lower standard? Even though its there first time posting? im just wondering, im not insulting you or anything, but why not give advise to people with openness rather than at a lower standard? I mean who are you to look at people at lower standards? Surely how would you feel if you were looked at by people as a lower standard? its not very nice. I mean people come for advise and yes they maybe have made mistakes and are beginniers so they may seem inexperienced, but give them credit, at least they are showing signs to improve by coming online and discussing their issues.

[lneill84]

There are very few newbies on here, in my experience, that ever change and actually learn something. They might come on asking questions, but after hearing that their thoughts are wrong, they bolt and head for the hills. Most people rarely change what they are doing.

[m0usey]

I was a 'newbie' when I came on. My dog and cat were pretty much ignored by me because I didn't know what to do with them except pet and snuggle with, my brother had a guinea pig who I pretty much never saw, and I used to have a bird who probably died because we did something wrong.

I came on, and now I at least have a slight clue how to take care of any animal thrown at me. I probably know more about animals than my mom does. I started getting mice, and now I'm going to get a hedgehog. If you don't call that growing, I don't know what is.

And even if other people aren't perfect, and don't learn fast enough for you, insulting them and bringing up other things definitely isn't the way to go.

No I didn't read her other threads about the dogs and cats and her lies, but I tell ya, I did search on her posts to find what she was talking about when she said she was leaving, and I found countless threads like this. I didn't get down far enough to find her other threads. But even so, how is she supposed to properly take care of her pets if other people are bringing up other things! Her asking at all shows that she's trying to find out what's best for her pet.

Can't people just be nice to each other?

[lneill84]

Why doesn't she try taking them to the vet for a common ailment in cats, instead of letting it die?

[Pinkbubble283]

I know I said I wouldn't post but I want to tell Mousy something...

The 'lies' they are talking about is, like a few months ago, I said I was 29 joking, ,I was purposly acting immature, and I honestly didn't think they would take me serisouly, so i told them my real age which is 15, but i accidently typed 25, and they think I purposly lied about that.. although it was jsut a typo.. the two is next to the one duh.. and Punky was going off about how I shouldn't have pets and she asked if Xena (my sisters dog) had papers.. and I said yes, and shes like 'tell me the dogs numbers and all the info about it' and becasue I wouldn't tell her, she automaticly thought I was lieing.. so yea.. those are the 'big lies' they are talking about.
btw, I called the vet and they said 6 months, so we are getting her fixed when shes 6 months.

[Spudnik]

I automatically hold people at a lower standard when they neglect their animals and are irresponsible an lie.

While I generally agree with what you are saying to Pinkbubble and completely understand where you're coming from, if we held people at a lower standard due to what they said as a newbie, some of the more experienced and responsible pet owners wouldn't be here now. I know for sure one member that first posted in a similar way to Pinkbubble, and now she holds the same opinions on these subjects as us.

Maybe you should learn from that, Pinkbubble. Open minded members are very much welcome here.

[Spudnik]

I know I said I wouldn't post but I want to tell Mousy something...

The 'lies' they are talking about is, like a few months ago, I said I was 29 joking, ,I was purposly acting immature, and I honestly didn't think they would take me serisouly, so i told them my real age which is 15, but i accidently typed 25, and they think I purposly lied about that.. although it was jsut a typo.

Really? When you came clean about your age you told us that you pretended you were 29 so that people would take you seriously. Not because you were purposely trying to annoy us.

[Spudnik]

Stop posting so quickly! :p

[lneill84]

I would be thrilled if people came on here and were open to asking questions and learning. The majority of people are not. They don't like to be told that their way is wrong, even dangerous and unhealthy, and then leave. I can always tell by the first post by someone new if they are actually willing and open to ideas, or if they automatically came on here to defend themselves. PinkBubble, you have lied about much more than your age and papers on your dog. Your entire thread, which I am certainly not going to reread was filled with contradictions, backpedaling, and outright lies. I still believe to this day that you are lying. And now, you are doing that exact same thing that you did in the end of your thread-throwing a tantrum and saying that youre never coming back, and then posting "i know i said I wouldn't post but...". What-did you try another board and find the same results? People don't take kindly to lying, neglect of animals, and breeding for fun on any true animal lover's board.

[Pinkbubble283]

what a second... she said I neglect my animals?!?!? ok.. ineill.. you are the one thats lies.. oh my gosh, that is the biggest load of bs I've ever heard... my animals are not neglected, oh my gosh.. they are so the oppisite.. all day, twenty four hours a day, they get attention, I mean, my cat, I wake up with her on me, she fallows me when I get dressed, she hops on the table when I start my school, she sits in something on the table until I'm done, then she goees under my bed and takes a nap, when she comes out if I'm in my room.. or really who ever is in the room she hops on them and lays on them for awhile.. ect.. she gets alot of attention, same thing with the two dogs... they get alot of attention.. I buy my cat cat food that cost 35 bucks over the internet... you honestly think my animals are negleted? wow... thats just... wow.. I'm shocked.

[lneill84]

What happened to the cat that died because it wasn't taken to the vet FOR BLADDER STONES? What happened to the cat that you "gave away" because it suddenly stopped using the toilet? What about the puppy that you took away from its mother at 7 weeks old? Doesn't matter how much you spend on your animals, i've known homeless people that have been more responsible with their pets than you

[Pinkbubble283]

do you think i wanted that cat to die? we took him to the vet, he had the worst kind there are, he went there like three times for a catheder and each time they would jsut come back, the lady said they would keep comthing back but they could keep putting the catheder in him, so, my sister and mom decided to put him to sleep, because he was in so much pain and they didn't like seeing him in pain. I was like 12/13 when this happened, I had no say in the matter..

The cat that my dad gave away.. as I said before he gave it to a good home, its happy.. I also had no say in the matter I was gone somewhere with my other sister (I have four sisters)
Rambo, the other dog. hes like two years old now.. we got him when he was eight weeks old from a breeder.. and sheena, she was eating food because Xena stopped nursing them, so my sister gave her to us.. which by the way, shes almost all the way over the vicious thing.

[Pinkbubble283]

and Rambo is like Sheena's dad.. we live a half a mile away from my sister and she comes over her like a few times a week and brings Xena and the other baby.. so they see each other.

[lneill84]

Sounds like you have a great vet! Bladder stones, while painful, are very easy to treat, and seemingly very common in cats. Then, to top things off, you have another cat that is exhibiting a sign of bladder stones (not using the toilet), and you just up and give him away. When a perfectly healthy, regular litter box user stops using it, you can bet your life there's a problem. Either its medical, or the litter box is too dirty, litter isn't working for them, etc. Cats just don't wake up one morning and say "im gonna really piss everyone off and no use my litter box). The fact that your vet allowed and then didn't even make sure you or your sister were properly informed about puppy care makes me sick. He shouldn't have a license to practice. Its absolutely ridiculous that you took a puppy, with an already sketchy background, and took it from its mom at 7 weeks old, and then come here complaining about why its biting. And then throw your temper tantrum when people are "being mean" to you and threaten to leave. You've now claimed 3 times youre leaving-is it all talk and no action, because you must be at least getting something out of this board to repeatly keep coming back

[Spudnik]

Her father gave the cat away when she was younger. It does sound as if the vet isn't all that competent, but I see no reason to attack Pinkbubble for that UNLESS she refuses to TRY to do something about it for the good of her animals. From what I have gathered, the puppy is her responsibility and so she should choose which vet she goes to, but I can only assume that the others are family pets and so the care that they are given is ultimately decided by her parents.

[m0usey]

Maybe there's no point in me saying anything anymore...

Pinkbubble, I think what Ineill is TRYING to say is that she doesn't think your vet is giving you proper information or care for your animals and you should try to find a better one.

[ronald]

All i can say is that, ignore the harshness and sometimes the occassional rudeness and just focus on the advice given in each post.

People on here are great in the fact that advice do come. So Pinkbubble try to gain as much as possible and ignore the harshness. Good luck

[MouseyMari]

do you think i wanted that cat to die? we took him to the vet, he had the worst kind there are, he went there like three times for a catheder and each time they would jsut come back, the lady said they would keep comthing back but they could keep putting the catheder in him, so, my sister and mom decided to put him to sleep, because he was in so much pain and they didn't like seeing him in pain. I was like 12/13 when this happened, I had no say in the matter..

The cat that my dad gave away.. as I said before he gave it to a good home, its happy.. I also had no say in the matter I was gone somewhere with my other sister (I have four sisters)
Rambo, the other dog. hes like two years old now.. we got him when he was eight weeks old from a breeder.. and sheena, she was eating food because Xena stopped nursing them, so my sister gave her to us.. which by the way, shes almost all the way over the vicious thing.


ROFL now you have four sisters. Before you had 6, then you had 5. You have a little brother. Then your mom had seven kids. Get your stories straight:D

Not to make a big deal out of THAT, but...

Pinkbubble, please, it would help you so much if you were open-minded. Just take the advice nicely, and if really bothers you, put lneill84 on your Ignore list.

Get your dog spayed. Find a new vet.

[Pinkbubble283]

mousymari.. your lieing, I've never lied about how many siblings I have.. I have six siblings, four sisters, two brothers, all my sisters are older then me and I have one yougner brother and one older brother... your confused or somthing.

[MouseyMari]

mousymari.. your lieing, I've never lied about how many siblings I have.. I have six siblings, four sisters, two brothers, all my sisters are older then me and I have one yougner brother and one older brother... your confused or somthing.
kk, I did get confused....sorry....But why are you always telling me I'm lying? It's called CONFUSION. Look it up.

LOL, have fun with this thread Bubble.

[lneill84]

God pinkbubble when are you actually going to make good on your threats of leaving? This just keeps going on and on and on