dwarf pair in CT1?

[yummy321pop]

i'm in a situation and i was wondering if i could put a dwarf pair in a CT1?

[903409518093852]

They will fight probably.

[yummy321pop]

dwarves love being in pairs. i don't rele know what ur talking about...

[dwankrista]

yes, they love being in pairs in large setups. they will fight when put in small housing. a CT1 is too small, in my opinion, to house them comfortably. they will begin to fight. a setup for more than one dwarf requires each dwarf to have his/her own house, a large wheel to fit them both, two bowls and water sources, etc. dwarves are social but require their alone time as well. bin cages are cheap and easily made. they can be connected as well.

[903409518093852]

I meant in that small cage. Dwarfs fight if they don't have enough space. My dwarfs fought and they had four of those cages. I would get at least a 30 gallon for two dwarfs. Get a bin or something. How long in that cage?

[PetLuver21257]

30 gallon?!?! Are you crazy? That's freaking huge! :/

10 gallon is the minimum, a 20 if you'd like!

[903409518093852]

A 10 gallon is so small. I have a 10 gallon and a topper (the big kind with one full level and two half levels) and it is just big enough for my two mice. It's just big enough. A 20 gallon, maybe, as long as it is a 20 gallon long. Just because dwarfs are small doesn't mean they need small cages. As soon as I find a good price, I'm getting a 40 gallon for my mice. If I had a bigger desk I would get a 50 gallon. Just because they are small animals doesn't mean they don't need space.

[dwankrista]

i agree. though people say 10 gallons is a minimum i wouldn't house anything in a 10 gallon. i did have my two female mice in a 10 at one point but i couldn't stand seeing them in it any longer and opted for a 20 and adopted a third mouse. i couldn't imagine keeping one of my boys in a 10 gallon, especially willie since i see how far he runs per night around the boys' home. i just don't think it would be fair to him. my rule is you can never go too big. 30 gallons would be a fabulous palace and adequate housing, in my opinion, for a pair. some people will say it is extreme but i see how well my trio of boys do in a 30 and i still hate seeing them in it as i feel they should have more room.

[LMDH]

I use a 10 gallon tank as my hopsital tank - for any hamster that need to rest and recuperate. Its not a good size for living in.

A CT1 is way too small for a pair of dwarfs. I used to have ne of these and I used to for my old single hamsters, as they used to find it quite a fun cage! But not for a pair.

When I had mice, I had the CT1 joined to a CT3 with a Habitrail maze in the middle, all for 4 mice.

[GillyXBean]

Until last week when I seperated my male & female twins, they were in a CT1 for about a week, and it wasn't too small, I don't think. Now, granted, they are young and on the small side, but I have tubes running from it, and the wheel that goes on top, plus 2 extra "hide out" area's.

I have two adult dwarves though that I would not house together in a CT1, too small.

I'm also not a fan of the CT's to begin with, though I have 2. They're cheap and fun, but not as sturdy. I'm a fan of the cages that lock down to a plastic base. I don't like that you really can't add on to them, or attach them to other cages, but in general, I like how sturdy and well built they are as opposed to the CT's.

[PetLuver21257]

Well, if you *have* the room for a *30 gallon tank* then by all means, go ahead and get one, but it seems silly to have just two dwarves in a 30 gallon tank.

All I know is that I do NOT have the space for a 30 gallon. My 20 gallon fish tank is HUGE compared to the 10 gallon one (double the size, obviously) and it covers my whole dresser just about, I would have to keep a 30 gallon on the floor. I wouldn't like having a 30 gallon tank on the floor because I like seeing what the hamsters are doing at eye level without crouching down and without bending down to pick them up.... Plus, have you ever tried to pick up a 30 gallon tank? ;)

[903409518093852]

I wouldn't be picking up my 40 gallon. I would scoop all the bedding out with a dust pan, and suck the little peices up with a vacuum, than wipe it down with warm water and mild soap and dry. No moving involved! I guess I think they need a big space because mine fought and I know a few other peopls who have found in 20 gallons. I guess its just the bigger the better. Get the most you can afford and have room for.

[dwankrista]

yes, i've tried to pick up a 30 gallon, i do it every time i clean my dwarves. the way i see it, it's not my space i have to worry about but the wellbeing of the animals. if i don't have room for adequate housing i do not have room for the animals. it is selfish to confine them to small spaces simply because you do not have room. ugh. i'll never understand why some people never put the interests of the animals first.

[LMDH]

I have my gerbils in *I think* 40 gallon tanks - i have two of them. They dont move. I shovel it out and hoover, then wash and leave to dry. Gerbils get a platime on the meanwhile.

[903409518093852]

If you want to know, a 40 gallon is about umm I think 36 inches long, 15-18 inches deep, and 12-15 inches tall. There are other variations also.

[LMDH]

Thanks - I got it right!! My gerbil tanks are 36 x 12 x 18.

[MouseyMari]

yes, i've tried to pick up a 30 gallon, i do it every time i clean my dwarves. the way i see it, it's not my space i have to worry about but the wellbeing of the animals. if i don't have room for adequate housing i do not have room for the animals. it is selfish to confine them to small spaces simply because you do not have room. ugh. i'll never understand why some people never put the interests of the animals first.

agreed. animals CAN'T take care of themselves...mice in the wild have just that, the wild! eternal space, lol.

Dwarves are territorial and should have PLENTY of space.

[bubblz]

Personally I hate using fish tanks for hamsters but that's just me. Currently my pair of dwarfs are in an extensive set up of CT cages and I also Have one dwarf who's kept solitary in his own CTz with quite a few expansions (this is my hammie clinic for the an ill little man). Dwarfs run an average of 8 miles a night and should have more room and stimulation than a wheel inside a tank to do that. They also need things to regularly be changed to help stimulate them. This can easily be done by changing the patterns of the tubes and placement of multiple CT modules. I found that rectangular fish tanks have more Con's than Pro's when I was researching how to house my dwarfs. The vertillation is poor, so they can actually breed bacteria or fungus. ( even when you clean your tank religiously.)
I have yet to have a dwarf escape from any of my CT cages. I think that it can be a pain to take them apart at cleaning time. But they do not weigh a lot either. I find them to be pretty sturdy too if you take care of your stuff. The only cage I had break was a CT1 a few months ago (it was taken apart for cleaning and while I was drying the pieces my Rottweiler Gradey who weighs 120Lbs broke one of the plastic side walls "trying to help me")