Help me

[Angelcrab]

:rolleyes: What should I do I use to take lessons and quit to go to another trainer. I had a problem My instructer told me my dreams wouldnt come true with ridding my 8 year olds ex-race horse because she didnt know how to jump and was just learning still. What should I do. I have fallen off to many times on my old instructers horse. I want to ride my own horse and start over. My horses name is Party And she is very special. Should I change ridding styles to doing Drassage?:confused:

[lneill84]

Its never a good idea for a beginning rider and a beginning horse to be paired together. You need an older, trustworthy horse that knows whats supposed to happen and can be relied on. A young horse is going to get confused and aggrevated if they dont understand exactly what you are asking of them and are less tolerant of mistakes. I started to jump bigger and extend my flatwork skills on my saint, Eli. He had showed a lot, and knew everything, even if i didn't ask it correctly 100% of the time. He allowed me to work on my riding skills without worrying he would stop, spook or do something else out of confusion. Same with another one of my jumpers. He was an old Grand Prix horse, and had jumped some of the biggest courses around. I learned to stay out of his way and just point. You won't get that luxury on a younger horse. Because of these two, I was able to progress to breaking babies, and riding more complicated horses. Your horse might be very special but not a good match for you in terms of training. If you are just starting out riding and she still very "green", you are asking for a miserable time and some diasters. I can't tell you how many times i've fallen off-some times my fault and sometimes the horses being silly. It happens. But you shouldn't be falling off because you are over matched on a horse. Ex race horses can be difficult to deal with sometimes, i've worked with a couple. They are throughbreds, which are considered "hot" horses. They can be less tolerant of a novice rider and more spooky. They can have soft mouths, and can easily be spooked by a bad ride or situation. They make great jumpers, just because they are so quick on their feet, but have a difficult time with patience. They have been ingrained to run for their lives and its difficult to get them to accept being slow and follow directions. Their whole lives have been dedicated to running in a circle. You need a trainer that can work with her and can have a nice, easy horse for you to ride and learn on. It will make things much nicer for her and you. Throughbreds, in general, do not make the best dressage horses because of their hotness. Research dressage and see if its something that interests you. It takes a lot of precise and intense riding to become successful at it. I personally love flatwork, but if you don't, steering towards dressage isn't the best idea.

[LoneStar]

Hi,

I can understand you wanting to have lessons on your own horse, but its a difficult situation because your ex racer needs careful training, but like Ineill said, you need a reliable horse to learn on as well.

I think it would be good for you to have lessons on your own horse - but only doing very basic things. Dressage and showjumping are best left alone until you have cracked the basics with her. Take it slow with her and be patient - you'll get there but it will take a long time.

If you really want to jump or do dressage then its better to practice on a more experienced horse. Your TB will only get confused and upset if you are giving her the wrong signals or accidentally jabbing her in the mouth.

By the way, why do you keep falling off your instructors horse?

[Angelcrab]

:eek: You dont understand I've ridden horses for 4 years and I am specialy trained to jump and do drassage. Party just dosnt know how to jump she can but not high. Only 1 foot jumps an three in a row. I have been trained to jump at my stables at aprox, 4 feet high. I had always fallen off because Her horse Wally dosnt know how to jump as high as we are, and Betty my trainer wont get on him and train him. He is not safe and she has begginers riding him, my friend broke her arm on him because he refused.:devil1:

[lneill84]

If you were "trained" to ride jumps at 4 foot, then regardless of the horse, your experience level should be able to carry you through anything. If a horse doesn't have the ability to jump, it will refuse. I've ridden many horses that wouldn't jump over their eye level, usually 3'6/3'9. Great horses, but just won't jump any higher. You said that your horse can only jump 1 foot, and then said "Wally" can't jump as high as your horse-im confused...There are two types of stoppers-fear stoppers (overmounted) or dirty stoppers, who just stop because they feel like it. Regardless, most stops, if you are in the correct position (heels down, shoulders back and balanced) shouldn't result in a fall. Riding horses for 4 years doesn't mean squat-you're still a beginner compared to some people who have been riding for 50+ years. You really need to start reconsidering your riding goals, and if you want to stick with Party. Is there a chance that you can lease a nice easy horse that you can learn on? It will make things more enjoyable for you, and help you ride her better

[Angelcrab]

:no: Wally is my instructers horse and he dosnt jump over fences that are four feet. he just cant do it but my instructer always puts someone on him.


Party just dosnt know how to jump that high and would probably stop out of fear instead of just not wanting to.:no: She is very able to do Drassage as my instructer rode her in a show and recived first place.


No I can not lease another horse for I do not have that much more money,+ My trainer dosnt have any for lease. Thats out of the quistion. All the money goes tword Party

[Angelcrab]

:p :no: Wally is my instructers horse and he dosnt jump over fences that are four feet. he just cant do it but my instructer always puts someone on him.


Party just dosnt know how to jump that high and would probably stop out of fear instead of just not wanting to.:no: She is very able to do Drassage as my instructer rode her in a show and recived first place.


No I can not lease another horse for I do not have that much more money,+ My trainer dosnt have any for lease. Thats out of the quistion. All the money goes tword Party

[DomBee8]

Your posts were hard to understand, and I didn't read everyone elses posts so forgive me if I repeat anything. You can't just buy a horse and expect to make it jump. I don't think anyone who has been riding for four years is qualitifed to teach a horse, no matter how high you jump. Your problem is you jump four feet, and now you have a horse that doesn't know how to jump. It takes time. It comes faster to some horses than others, but it sounds like it's comeing slowly to your horse. If done properly, it takes months and months to reach four feet. How long have you had this horse? How long have you been trying to jump her? Has she had any professional training? If not, then I don't think it's at all fair to say that this is the horse's fault. If your horse doesn't feel comfurtable jumping four feet, don't make her. I would get help from a professional trainer, not an instructor. The trainer might be able to help the two of you. If not, then you should stick to dressage or lower courses. Personally, I believe that a rider should respect a horse's abilities and shouldn't make any selfish acts. If my horse couldn't or didn't like jumping, I wouldn't do it. Also, if I were an adanced jumper like you, I would have only looked at horses that were trained to jump four feet while I was looking into buying a horse. I don't know how much you have your heart set on jumping, but if it's something you want to do get a trainer.

[lneill84]

A lot in your whole story just doesn't make sense, and im just as confused as the above poster. You're trained to jump 4 feet, but keep falling off? It sounds like to me that you are on the wrong horses, jumping way to high for your ability level, and have been overfaced many times. If you are seriously a comptent enough rider to cleanly jump a 4 foot course, then you should easily be able to handle these two over small fences.

[Angelcrab]

:cop: Ineill84 You understand The one thing is she dosnt let me have the choice to jumplwer in my lesson I have to at least 3 feet and my horse is still learning how to jump 1 foot jumps my bose says that she is not as expensive and she does more with me. And only Now I had to go to the barn for lessons , Now I have to wait for her to come to me.and she wont work with me on partyshell have me on her horse. Should I switche trainers?:confused:
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Anglecrab:p

[LoneStar]

Hi Angelcrab,


At the end of the day you are paying money for an instructor to teach you, so I can't understand why she would refuse to teach you on your own horse. Although Party may not be ideal for you, you are sticking with her, and should therefore learn how to ride her well. I would say find another instructor who can meet your needs.

[Angelcrab]

Thank you for understandingb I just swithched I start this Thursday thnx for helping me.

[LoneStar]

No problem!
Best of luck.