NEed help quick

[Beast426]

ok so im breeding my syrians i am aware of all the odds and endsa of it and have multiple cages to use but my female is in heat and in the males cage.he licks her but and trys to wat i beleive looks like mounting on her head and side i read that hamster males might not get mating but will eventually get "it" down. he just nwont mount her i dont know wat to do

[Catmakemebark]

Nevermind I was saying something but i read you last sentence again.

[Punkygirl0101]

What exactly is your question? How to get your male to mount the female? Leave them in there together.

I am really expecting the breeders here to ask alot of questions!! :)

[TiaMaria]

Do you know anything about hamsters?
Do you know their genetic background?
Do you know these 2 are suitable to mate?
Do you know there is unwanted hamsters out there that want a home and we don't need uneducated people breeding because it's "cute"?
Do you know a syrian can have up to 20 babies?
Do you have enough money to care for each individual hamster?
Do you know a local vet willing to look at the babies if they get hurt?
Do you know that they will kill each other if together a long time in the same cage?
Do you know its dangerious for the mother to breed if she is over 6 months old because her hips fuse together making her die during labor?
Do you have 20 people lined up to take these babies?
Why are you breeding?
Why do you want the babies?
Are you just gonna give them over to a petstore if you can't find homes for them?
Do you know ANYTHING at all other then oh lets put them in the same cage and be a idiot?

If you answered no or couldn't answer ANY of these questions than you are officially a retard and should not be breeding.

Thank you...come again..:\

[Beast426]

yes i am aware of every thing and money is not in issue not to brag but i am rich. I know you dont believ me but whatever. But both are syrians the female is sable colored and the male is white dominant w/cream back. He tries to mount her head and face its wierd but she allows him.He ends up just grooming hisself or sleeping. Im breeding because i have more then enough homes lined up and i have lots of cages that i boutgh yesterday w/ acceseries.
I know her estrous cycle is every 3-5 days common is 4 last anywhere 4 to 24 hours just to answer a few of your questions.

[dwankrista]

do you know their genetics? oh, and just a tip: rich people usually don't say "i'm rich", and most students aren't "rich" (i checked your profile). if you are indeed rich i suggest paying for some language and english classes to improve your grammar and punctuation. :)

[PetLuver21257]

Oh shnap!

Well, how many cages do you have?

Like what dwan said, do you know the genetic background, at all?

Where did you get these hamsters from?

How old are they?

Do you know how many babies Syrians can have... A LOT!

How many homes do you have lined up?

[PetLuver21257]

Oh, and I am happy to add that we are all acting very mature in the way we post. Nobody is jumping to conclusions. We are all just asking questions which is the right way to go! :)

[Beast426]

not so much as im rich but my family (Mother is a partyplanner and father is ceo for a music company)
i knew u wouldnt believ so whatever

[TiaMaria]

You still havent answered all my questions, until you do so I won't help you and I'm sure no one here will either.

[dwankrista]

^ i agree.
plus, if you're so wealthy why not try donating some of those wads of cash to shelters who are blocked to the cielings with homeless hamsters rather than creating more and taking away potential homes? why not suggest to your friends that you'd rather not jeopardize the health of your female and any future pups being born from unknown lines and request they adopt from a shelter instead?

i'm with tia. you still have not answered the inquiries that anyone here has and nobody on here will promote careless, uneducated breeding of hamsters, or any animal for that matter.

[Moosley]

not to mention that "white dominant w/ cream back" isnt a colour so i am going to assume its either a cream or yellow dominant spot. is your female cream carrying the anopthalmic gene? do you know how to tell?

[PetLuver21257]

I am with Tia and Dwan, you keep putting off our questions, it makes us wonder if you are an irrisponsible kid that just wants to breed for fun.

[Sparky2006]

^ i agree.
plus, if you're so wealthy why not try donating some of those wads of cash to shelters who are blocked to the cielings with homeless hamsters rather than creating more and taking away potential homes? why not suggest to your friends that you'd rather not jeopardize the health of your female and any future pups being born from unknown lines and request they adopt from a shelter instead?

i'm with tia. you still have not answered the inquiries that anyone here has and nobody on here will promote careless, uneducated breeding of hamsters, or any animal for that matter.

Yes Exactly!

"do you know their genetics? oh, and just a tip: rich people usually don't say "i'm rich", and most students aren't "rich" (i checked your profile). if you are indeed rich i suggest paying for some language and english classes to improve your grammar and punctuation."

Now THAT IS GOOD! You cant even spell properly.....puh rich! Or is it your just the rich spoilt boy who doesnt care, wont go to work and live off their parents.

But im not saying anymore. I suggest you do ALL your research....find out the genetics...and anwser ALL questions on here first before anything is done.

P.s. Some 1 told me that they researched for around a year and a bit before breeding. But i cant remember who......have YOU researched for a year or so? :confused:

[PetLuver21257]

Now now Sparky, we are getting a little off track. Let's stop assuming you know? Especially with the rich part...

[bubblz]

How old is the male hamster?
Although he is technically sexually mature if he is still very young he won't know where to mount

[TiaMaria]

Bublz don't give him advice unless he's willing to share the information he asked for.

[Sparky2006]

He said he was rich, and why isnt he anwsering, he probable has a mansion full of compuers, hes "rich".......................sorry.

[lilangel1518]

bubblz is right if he is young also if he is much smaller than the female he will try mounting her but it will be off to the side almost b/c he wont b big enough to mount her like we imagine. thats how it is with my male because he is much smaller. however like all the others said make sure u take the hamsters into consideration you dont want to end up sick babies with defects like no eyes which could happen.

[Moosley]

All males i have ever seen have gone for the ears first when they dont know what they are doing... some get the hang of it, some dont. In my experiance, males dont want to mate properly until they are 3-4 months old at least..

[Sparky2006]

you do know your just giving info away

[lilangel1518]

yes i know im giving info but this is a place for hamster owners to share experiences and learn from each other. they asked for help and i shared like i hope others will do for me when i have a question

[Beast426]

The male is dominantly white with cream back and it is a color i researched it. Why are you worried about spelling its the internet and im 14 so why does it matter. Also bieng "wealthy" as nothing to do with grammar Tia.And the female is sable not cream.
Thanks you to lilangel for the help people assume to early and dont know what there talking about i dont have to answer a bunch of questions because the forum is here for help not flaming. YOur using the fact that my parents are rich against me and i cant donate because its not my money. I have a job too so im not a spoiled little rich boy for your info i volunteer at the local pet rescue but there is no hamster rescue in my area that is close to me.

[Beast426]

The male is dominantly white with cream back and it is a color i researched it. Why are you worried about spelling its the internet and im 14 so why does it matter. Also bieng "wealthy" as nothing to do with grammar Tia.And the female is sable not cream.
Thanks you to lilangel for the help people assume to early and dont know what there talking about i dont have to answer a bunch of questions because the forum is here for help not flaming. YOur using the fact that my parents are rich against me and i cant donate because its not my money. I have a job too so im not a spoiled little rich boy for your info i volunteer at the local pet rescue but there is no hamster rescue in my area that is close to me.

[Sparky2006]

right...........breeding is a touchey subject here.

[TiaMaria]

I never posted anything about grammar, that was sparky...grammar is completely off topic compared to your question.

[Pepperland]

I'm going to be neutral in this argument, but I knew of a girl who lived in my neighborhood, and she bred her hamsters because she was obsessed with them, and believe me... she had dozens of cages in her room! She actually kept all of her hamsters because she liked them so much, and she bred dwarfs. Some people don't do it because they want money to sell the hamsters, or because they think it's cute.

Then again, you should only breed once you've researched for a very long time, have a little more than 20 cages (your female may give birth to more), and have *everything* prepared.

I might breed, but that'll be only after I've researched for a *very* long time. I remember when I wanted to breed crowntail bettas, I researched for over 4 years, and I still haven't bred them yet! (Gosh, breeding bettas is really hard to do...) I can never get the water just perfect...

[Moosley]

The male is dominantly white with cream back

For gods sake please listen. There is NO colour called 'dominantly white with cream back'. Listen to people who have had years of experiance.

[bubblz]

PLease OH GOD PLEASE read my post on hamster genetics. and try some new places for your research in Campbell's dwarfs there isn't a coat color called that.
There are MANY things that can go HORRIBLY wrong if you breed the wrong hammies together.

[PetLuver21257]

Okay, listen, you can breed them, IF:

-You know the genetics of BOTH parents
-You know the REAL colors of BOTH parents
-You have at least 10 extra cages AND supplies
-You have a hamster savvy vet available
-YOU have enough money to spend on them, not your parents
-You find LOVING homes for ALL the baby hamsters, and if not, YOU keep the remaining babies, not dump them onto a pet store

I just want to tell you that if the female has 20 babies and you only find homes for 10 of them, then you are stuck with 10 cages and hamsters. And for the first month the total amount of money that you spend is about

$492!

So, make sure that YOU have enough money to care for 10+ hamsters. If you know all that, and YOU have enough money, then go ahead and breed them. :undecided

[Catmakemebark]

I would leave the breeding to the experts. Thats why they breed. To make good hamsters with backround info for people so people dont have to breed hamsters with genetic problems. They record every little thing about the hamster. If you know the parents and everything else petluver said then you also have to be prepared to know everything about your baby hamsters when they are given homes.
Breeding is not fun if you don't have the time and effort.
Why breed hamsters if your friends are going to take them. Why dont you friends go adopt one of the millions of hamsters that need a loving home.
How can you get a job if you are 14. I'm 15 and I cant get a job! If you volunteer how do you get paid?

[TiaMaria]

yea a lot of things dont add up with this kid.

[Sparky2006]

no nothing does! even his spelling...

[Pepperland]

Haha, my sister said that because her guinea pig is going to have 2 babies, and she didn't want it to have babies (she bought it pregnant from the petstore). She was really, really mad at the petstore...

[Sparky2006]

okay....mad sister! but nothing does add up?

[TiaMaria]

no this kid is just another irresponsible pet owner that wants to breed because it's "cute"

[Catmakemebark]

I totally agree with you.

[Sparky2006]

so do i,i hope he isnt now.

[Catmakemebark]

I've been on petshub for 2 weeks now and I have learned so much. I wish other people would take the time to ask around before doing anything that could not handle. Some people may be tough but I guess thats what it takes for some people to listen.

[bubblz]

you shouldn't encourage crappy behavior.
I also think the hamster forum tends to listen a bit more and jump to less conclusions than others.

[PetLuver21257]

Bubblz, you really think the hamster forum listens more?!

[bubblz]

seriouly check out the dog forum. Those people get nasty to everyone and feel they are entitled to act that way. and even after discrepancies are cleared up they're still all over one another
You all know I'm not a fan of acting all crazy especially when you don't have the facts straight.
hey whe you assume you make an A@# out of yourself LOL

[PetLuver21257]

True dat, true dat.

[bubblz]

I found another forum that the moderators seem to be all over nasty posts. I'm checking that one out too

[Chaos]

seriouly check out the dog forum. Those people get nasty to everyone and feel they are entitled to act that way. and even after discrepancies are cleared up they're still all over one another
You all know I'm not a fan of acting all crazy especially when you don't have the facts straight.
hey whe you assume you make an A@# out of yourself LOL

I disagree, I think the dog forum manages itself very well, and there's a ton of extremely knowledgeable people, unlike here it seems sometimes. Or am I just one of those crazy dog forum people?

[Sparky2006]

"I've been on petshub for 2 weeks now and I have learned so much. I wish other people would take the time to ask around before doing anything that could not handle. Some people may be tough but I guess thats what it takes for some people to listen."

Yea i'v been here just over 2 months and i'v learnt sooo much. Espically About Gerbils, Hamsters And Mice!

[TiaMaria]

Chaos, you're just animal crazy! It's all good :D

[Sparky2006]

Hehe! Lol!

[Spudnik]

I disagree, I think the dog forum manages itself very well, and there's a ton of extremely knowledgeable people, unlike here it seems sometimes. Or am I just one of those crazy dog forum people?

I guess I'm another of those crazy dog forum people, then! ;)

[Chaos]

Chaos, you're just animal crazy! It's all good :D Or maybe I'm just plain crazy *ponders* :D

[bubblz]

I've seen way too many people tear apart little kids that's not ok in my book.
I love my dogs and take very good care of them and I had someone call me a byb there. I don't breed at all and have no intention of breeding my dogs.
I just saw a lot of nasty things from people there.
Don't get me wrong there are a lot of great people ther like norman, k9bob, and brandypup but there are may too many self-rigtious ingnorant high-horsers for my likeing.
but that's just me

[TiaMaria]

Yea..come to think of it Chaos, you are just plain crazy :p but we wuv you! :D

[biffyclyro89]

yes i know im giving info but this is a place for hamster owners to share experiences and learn from each other. they asked for help and i shared like i hope others will do for me when i have a question


thats exactly the kind of attitude needed in here, breeders i understand your reasons for jumping down peoples throats but it gets a bit extreme, im sure there was a time when you didnt know much and hes trying to learn more so just help him out yeh....