Pond!

[S t e p h]

We Finished Our Pond Yesterday And Put Our 4 Goldfish In There And Bought 15 More And Put Them In There Too, They Love It!

Here Are Some Pictures Of The Pond:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture003-2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture004-2.jpg

[Catmakemebark]

That makes me want a pond for my koi more than ever now. Nice plants!
How much did it cost all together? I really want to make one.

[michaeldaturtle]

well thats cool.. you have to be VERY careful though to keep it safe and sanitary because of things in the air.....but im sure you will be careful:):D:p

[Shellie]

You did a gorgeous job! It looks so pretty.

[mynoven]

nice pond!

[mr gerbil]

So you've got 19 goldfish in there? How big is the pond?

[S t e p h]

That makes me want a pond for my koi more than ever now. Nice plants!
How much did it cost all together? I really want to make one.
I'm Not Sure How Much It Cost But It Wasn't That Much Because The Only Thing We Bought Was The Pond Liner.

[S t e p h]

So you've got 19 goldfish in there? How big is the pond?
There Is 22 Goldfish In There Now, I'm Not Sure How Big It Is But It Is Pretty Big We Could But Heaps More Then 22 Goldfish In There.

[mr gerbil]

Well, I might be wrong without measurements, but that pond does not look nearly big enough to support 22 goldfish. Each fish has the potential to grow to a foot long...that's 22' of fish.

[Shellie]

Steph, any way you can photograph right above the water so we can see the fishes? :D

[honeythorn]

could you measure it by any chance? ( length and width) does the pond have a filter? 22 goldfish will produce an astronomical amount of waste:eek: .
Dont get me wrong it's a nice pond and it looks good, but when i look at the pictures, i notice there is some sort of garden lamp near it? perhaps solar powered? if it is then by checking the size of the pond against the size of the lamp( those lamps are about 2-3 feet high, i have one in my garden)........it doesnt look very big at all. certainly not big enough for 22 goldfish! ( they may be small now, but as mg said, if each fish has a total size capacity of a foot long, thats 22 potential feet of fish! theres no way that pond is 22 feet long and wide. it looks to me to be about five to six feet long. am i close?
of course it could just be the angle of the picture.....
hmmmm.can you take a few more pictures? perhaps get someone to lie down next to it to compare the size?

sorry to be a pain but unless i really am looking at it wrong that pond( nice as it is) really doesnt look big enough at all. the depth isnt as important as the surface area, and thats what we need to know.thanx

[S t e p h]

Steph, any way you can photograph right above the water so we can see the fishes? :D
I Will Try Tomorrow If It's Not Cold And Raining.:)

[S t e p h]

could you measure it by any chance? ( length and width) does the pond have a filter? 22 goldfish will produce an astronomical amount of waste:eek: .
Dont get me wrong it's a nice pond and it looks good, but when i look at the pictures, i notice there is some sort of garden lamp near it? perhaps solar powered? if it is then by checking the size of the pond against the size of the lamp( those lamps are about 2-3 feet high, i have one in my garden)........it doesnt look very big at all. certainly not big enough for 22 goldfish! ( they may be small now, but as mg said, if each fish has a total size capacity of a foot long, thats 22 potential feet of fish! theres no way that pond is 22 feet long and wide. it looks to me to be about five to six feet long. am i close?
of course it could just be the angle of the picture.....
hmmmm.can you take a few more pictures? perhaps get someone to lie down next to it to compare the size?

sorry to be a pain but unless i really am looking at it wrong that pond( nice as it is) really doesnt look big enough at all. the depth isnt as important as the surface area, and thats what we need to know.thanx
And I Will Try To Measure It.:)

[S t e p h]

Well I Got Some Pictures Right Above The Water And I Tried To Measure It, The Length Is About 8 Feet And It Is About 3 1/2 Feet Wide.

Here Are Some Pictures:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture006-2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture005-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture004-3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture003-3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture008.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture007-1.jpg

[S t e p h]

And Here Are Some Pictures Right Above The Water With The Plants Out So You Can See The Fish.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture010.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y230/StephanieHall18/Picture009.jpg

[Cottontail]

About 800 gallons according to my calculations.

Cute fishies! They're so little and orange :D. The dog is cute too.

[Shellie]

It is so pretty Steph and cute fishes! They hide, thanks for moving the plants so we could see them. :D

[mr gerbil]

I'm getting 600 gallons. It's still too small for 22 goldfish, though. What filter are you using?

[honeythorn]

i agree. far too small . sorry to say it . if it was me i'd have stuck with four, it's better for the fish, and gives them plenty of growing room.( remember they grow to be 12 inches long each! you are going to need 22 feet of pondspace for 22 fish!)

also, it's better to put marginal pond plants and bog plants around the edges ( in the water obviously) to hide the liner, with the exception of the waterlily ( by the way waterlilies can become invasive and clog up the pond, they'll need to be cut back if they grow out of control).

i really would take most of those fish back, eight feet is not nearly enough room for 22 goldfish ( they look like comets am i correct? they really do get large!)

[S t e p h]

About 800 gallons according to my calculations.

Cute fishies! They're so little and orange :D. The dog is cute too.

It is so pretty Steph and cute fishes! They hide, thanks for moving the plants so we could see them. :D

Thanks!!!:)

[mr gerbil]

Yes, but what about the stocking problem?

[S t e p h]

I Think They Have Plenty Of Room!

[mr gerbil]

Do you actually know anything about fish?

As you seem to have qualified yourself as an authority on the subject, please explain to us the nitrogen cycle, issues regarding stunting, control of nitrates and their relative relationship with phosphates and algae, oxygen diffusion, feeding schedules, and anything else you might think helpful. I'm awaiting a reply with interest.

[S t e p h]

Do you actually know anything about fish?

As you seem to have qualified yourself as an authority on the subject, please explain to us the nitrogen cycle, issues regarding stunting, control of nitrates and their relative relationship with phosphates and algae, oxygen diffusion, feeding schedules, and anything else you might think helpful. I'm awaiting a reply with interest.
You'll Be Waiting Awhile...

[Catmakemebark]

lol...mr gerbil...all of your words of wisdom make me laugh because your 16. I dont know why. Its the right information...but it makes me laugh.

[Cottontail]

Precisely why I thought he was 30.

[Shellie]

MG is not sixteen ROFL

[Cottontail]

Really? I'm beginning to think he was drunk last night :rolleyes:. Go to Cotton it was about, like page 17.

[Shellie]

yeah but he talks about things he did back in the seventies somewhere on this forum. Can't remember where.

[Cottontail]

Yeah, I know. Weird...kinda makes sense but it doesn't.

[Catmakemebark]

Maybe he is the fat guy with the pudding bowl hair cut!

[Cottontail]

:laughing:

[Shellie]

I guess I am the oldest then. :p 31 And you are all grounded! :D

[mr gerbil]

"You'll Be Waiting Awhile..."

Exactly. Take it from me that the pond is understocked.

Where did I talk about things I did in the 70s?

[Shellie]

I don't remember, something about rescuing animals from labs? It must have been a joke and I took you seriously. lol What on Earth do your parent's think of you setting off explosives behind the house??

[mr gerbil]

I'm really not going to comment on that one...

[Shellie]

lol, okay But if I am the oldest then I can ground all of you. Muahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

[Songbird]

Possibly stupid question, but, where did you get the depth of the pond to work out the precise gallonage. Through my own calculations I worked it with the length of 8x3.5x3 foot deep would give a gallonage of around 525 gallons, but that was only by guessing the depth at 3 feet although from the picture it didn't look that - although of course very hard to tell from a photo only, and unless i'm going blind (which I probably am!) but I didn't see any mention on the depth on any of the postings.
I have been working out pond sizes, filtration and pump systems needed for people for the last six years since working full time. I'd also like to point out that no i'm not the average store worker, having 14 years prior experience keeping a wide variety of fish, and working with koi specialists for a number of years! Not to blow my own trumpet, but not letting anyone put me down either :p
I would agree with everyone that the pond is overstocked for it's size, as a comparison my 4,000 gallon pond has 18 fish in it only, this excludes the gallonage held in it's large external filtration system.

[honeythorn]

4000 gallons!!! blimey.:eek:

[Shellie]

WOW! I want a 4,000 gallon pond...

[mr gerbil]

"But if I am the oldest then I can ground all of you."

But what if I turned out to be 96? lol.

[Shellie]

lol Then I would be impressed that you use the computer so well and seem up on all the latest stuff. :p

[mr gerbil]

"Then I would be impressed that you use the computer so well "

lol, it really would be testing the grey matter!
But I'm not, of course.

[Spudnik]

Which grey matter? :p

[Cottontail]

He lost his mind remember :p.

[mr gerbil]

"He lost his mind remember ."

Meaning?

[Cottontail]

Meaning...you're crazy. :p You told me so yourself.

[mr gerbil]

lol. Quite a few people on here are.

[Cottontail]

...meaning?

[mr gerbil]

Me, you, Cat, honeythorn, mynoven, and possibly Shellie are all fairly crazy. Sorry if I've left anyone out...

[Cottontail]

Ah, I see. I've noticed we're all a little looney.

[mr gerbil]

You could say that :D . I tested the big incendary device tonight...it didn't work all that well. Although it was daylight for a few seconds :rolleyes: .

[Cottontail]

Really? What happened?

[mr gerbil]

Well...there was white flame and lots of smoke. And police sirens in the background (that really scared me).
I'll post the video if you're interested.

[Cottontail]

Sure. I may not get it downloaded tonight, but I'll try.
Why ever would the sirens scare you? :p

[mr gerbil]

Why would the sirens scare me? Because I'm setting off illegal pyrotechnic devices!

[Cottontail]

So they are illegal...why send smoke signals at night then? :p

[mr gerbil]

Because the flare looks so much nicer! I'll reduce the video quality so it's fairly small. In the meantime,

http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos179/1/31/44/83/68/8/868834431133_0_ALB.jpg

[Cottontail]

Dang! That's awesome :D. Is that a water hose in the bottom right? I can see why you'd have that handy.

[mr gerbil]

That's the best part of it. Actually, the hose isn't even connected to a water supply. But the pond is right next to (or probably in) the flare!

[Cottontail]

lol. No fish in it, I hope?

[mr gerbil]

Not yet, although I don't suppose it would do them too much harm...

[Cottontail]

They might actually enjoy the show :D.

[mr gerbil]

LOL, yes! They would have already had to put up with this one:

http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos179/1/31/44/76/98/2/298764431133_0_ALB.jpg

[Cottontail]

Awesome :D! How do you manage not to burn down the trees?

[mr gerbil]

I nearly didn't manage :rolleyes: .

[Cottontail]

LOL! What do your parent(s) think about your hobby? If you don't mind me asking...

[mr gerbil]

My mum is blissfully unaware. She thinks I stopped doing it a while back. My dad doesn't really care :rolleyes:. (I feel like I'm 7 now :D )

Here's the video:

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/4160310/nicetry....wmv.html

The quality's fairly poor though.

[Cottontail]

Thanks! It says it'll be done in less than 2 minutes. The quality should be fine, it's the effect that matters :D.

[mr gerbil]

Well, it doesn't do it justice. You can't see the daylight effect, and the audio sounds like ET phoning home :rolleyes: .

[Cottontail]

I'm downloading again. It came up on media player and I could only hear it. What is with you and ET?

[mr gerbil]

You're the one who keeps mentioning him! (or should that be 'it'?)

If the video isn't playing, that's probably a codec problem *switches to computer geek personality*. You'll need to download a new one. And don't ask me how to do that.

I'd convert it to another format but I don't think I've got the software. Hang on a sec.

[Cottontail]

Yeah, it mentioned that...codec thingy. Now it's just not working all together. I'll try again!

[mr gerbil]

If it's not working now, it's probably just not going to. Stupid computer.
One option is to download Real Player, that plays just about anything. I think it's about a 10MB download, which unfortunately would take about an hour on dialup.

[Cottontail]

Yeah *sigh*. Well, I'll try one more time. I should have downloaded that blasted codec.

[Cottontail]

Oh well. It's doing that cannot display routine. Well, it sounded interesting enough :D.

[mr gerbil]

Don't bother, without the codec it won't work. Give me a minute, I'm working on a solution at this end.

[Cottontail]

Thanks. Any luck?

[mr gerbil]

Success!

Here's the video:

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/2132802/nicetry....bik.html

If you still can't play it, download this:

http://www.radgametools.com/down/Bink/RADTools.exe

The quality is really, really bad. But the original file would have literally taken several days to download on dialup.

[Cottontail]

Thanks! I'm trying the first one now. You sure you're not giving me a virus or something? :p

[mr gerbil]

Not that I'm aware of. I've got anti-virus software on here, so it should be ok.

[Cottontail]

Right...

I'll try the second one...

[mr gerbil]

Don't give up hope! And if you feel frustrated, shout abuse at the computer. It helps :D .

[Cottontail]

LOL! It's at 54%. Abuse wouldn't be good...my dad is in the other room :D.

[mr gerbil]

Lol...I guess that you're not really the type of person to take a sledgehammer to electronic equipment that's annoyed you. Now that really is fun (and I'm speaking from experience).

[Cottontail]

Oh no. I'd love to do that. But then I'd just end up with another piece of crap. And have less money in the process :D.

[mr gerbil]

I've only done it once, with stuff that had broken. And it wasn't even mine, it was school property :D . Quite a few of us enjoyed that...

[Cottontail]

Would that be part of the reasons you are no longer there? :p

It worked!! That was actually very good :D. Thanks! Did you use a video phone?

[mr gerbil]

"Would that be part of the reasons you are no longer there? "

No...my housemaster actually invited us to do it! He was into that kind of thing.

I used a camcorder :D...I told you that I had reduced the quality a lot.

[Cottontail]

Sounds like a fun person.
It was still good. I could see everything fine.

[mr gerbil]

"Sounds like a fun person."

He was an unusual person. When he wasn't encouraging wanton destruction, he was preaching passages from the Old Testament.

[Cottontail]

Interesting. Atleast ya got to smash the thing ;).

[mr gerbil]

lol, yes. That was f u n. Entertaining my primal instincts :D .

[Cottontail]

mmhmm Maybe we aren't on the same planet. Well, then again, Dial-up has only seemed to curse the populous of Earth.

Did you use a wooden club? lol

[mr gerbil]

Dialup is an evil, wicked thing. Looking back, I find it hard to imagine how I ever managed with it.

Wooden clubs weren't on the agenda that day. Just the sledgehammer...and feet. And other peoples' heads (jk, jk).

[Cottontail]

Yes, hopefully some day I can look back on dial-up.

lol, somehow I don't believe you're kidding. Been a shame if one of those sharp, painful objects found a way through your shoe.

[Shellie]

Me, you, Cat, honeythorn, mynoven, and possibly Shellie are all fairly crazy. Sorry if I've left anyone out...


I'm not only certifiable, I have a certificate to prove it! ;)

[Cottontail]

That's ok, we still love ya Shellie :D.

[mr gerbil]

lol, I probably need my own head examined.

What sharp painful objects are you referring to?

[Cottontail]

Metal, glass, the mother board. The usual ones in a computer. :p

[mr gerbil]

"Metal, glass, the mother board. The usual ones in a computer. "

It was actually 2 TVs and a washing machine :D .

[Cottontail]

Ok then. Metal, glass, screws, really stiff socks. :p

Chelle, I'm sorry I didn't reply to your question! I completely forgot :(. I didn't mean to be rude.

The formula I used, I got off a website, because I was going to build a pond of my own. If you have a better method, I'd like to know what it is. Save some trouble in the future :). I was assuming her pond was about 4 feet deep. Looks to be less though...

Anyway, it's: LxWxDx7.48

If you don't seem to see my reply here, I'll post the formula on Revenge. All the pages might deter you, lol.

[mr gerbil]

" Metal, glass, screws, really stiff socks"

Yep. Smashing the glass panel of a TV does tend to send glass dust everywhere...

[Cottontail]

You held your breathe, right?

[mr gerbil]

Obviously. If I hadn't, I might have regreted it later on :rolleyes: .

[Cottontail]

Right. I probably wouldn't have remembered to, or didn't hold my breathe long enough.