Sandy's story...

[AleandraOwens20]

Ok so Sandy I got from a rescue about 4-5 years ago and she's a cocker spainel/golden retriever but she looks like a "mini" golden. She's very good all the time and normally doesn't need a leash because she likes to follow us. So we went to 3rd street yesterday and we went into American Eagle and my mom went to the second level and then I joined her but Sandy's leash got all tangled up and so I took off her leash for a second and she started walking away. I started going "sandy! Sandy come back!" and she was gone. So I was looking around and she wasn't with my mom and by now I started breathing hard. I was like crap, where'd she go? Suddenly this guy walks up and he goes "who was walking a dog?" and I go "I was!" and he goes "oh your dog just walked out the front door." and I was like "WHAT?!?!?!?!" So I take off out the door and the guy was like "oh ya I saw her walk out the door and almost get hit by a truck and then she started running up Arizona st ( 3rd street is <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>> and Arizona is ^
^) and so I am running up the street crying screaming "SANDY!!! SANDY!!" and people are like oh ya she went up that way (straight up Arizona) so my mom calls and go "where'd you go??!" and im sobbing "shes gone! she's gone! sandy took off!" and so my mom came and picked me up and we were yelling "sannnnnddddyyyyyy!!!!" and then so I went on 3rd street leaving what she looks like and our number on paper in shops and so my uncle was on 3rd street too and so we met up and drove around some more and then saw my mom talking to a police officer and he said that the pound had found her in the gap so we were both crying and relived. Then we got to the pound and I was yelling over the gate and then a guy met us and he goes "oh you can't take her home today because she was involved in a bite scene." and I go "oh shit!" and so after talking (and some of my tears) we were able to take her home and quarntine her there. But seriously, who goes over to a random dog wandering in the gap and pets it?!?! I personally don't pet a dog until their owner says there ok. I mean, she's never bitten anyone before but she was probably terrified and then some wierd guy is petting her?! I would bite him too! So for until next friday if shes caught outside they'll make us pay 1,000 dollars and if the "victim" decided to sue us they could get about 35,000 dollars so Im like freaked out as crap! I'm just glad to have her back though! A lot of hobos in Santa Monica are crazy and they'd take her real fast! The whole day at school today I keep getting the same feeling I did when I first found out she took off...Sandy, we believe, has a mental disorder or something. She's terrified off firecrackers and must be locked inside during these times and she must be near someone always or else she goes crazy. Im so scared and even though we have her back I still started crying about 8 times today because I'm just in so much shock because i've never had this happen before....I just wanted to share...:o

[dbl120902]

What an... absurd story. Wow.


Sandy, we believe, has a mental disorder or something. She's terrified off firecrackers and must be locked inside during these times and she must be near someone always or else she goes crazy.


My dog must have a mental disorder, too... she's scared of firecrackers, thunder, any sort of loud banging. :rolleyes: In all seriousness, that's really normal. And another thing that's all-too-common in dogs is always needing to be around their families... it's called separation anxiety, and many dogs experience this. I don't think I'd label it as a mental disorder, though.

[way2manyguppies]

Honestly where does she get this stuff from it seems like she has to have a new story every day?

[dbl120902]

She just has this creative energy with no better outlet. I actually heard this story on one of those court shows a little while back. :)

[bruises]

Yeah, separation anxiety isn't a mental disorder. It's most often an accidentally trained behaviour, that can be succesfully worked with in most instances. My Loke used to have it real bad, now after a lot of training, I can leave him alone mostly without issues.

dbl, this exact story? In that case, lulz.

[dbl120902]

dbl, this exact story? In that case, lulz.

It was slightly tweaked... but basically the plantiff was suing over the dog bite, and the defendant had basically the same story that the OP told, although not quite verbatim. The main difference is that the defendant's story was much less extravagant. It was also somewhat less detailed, as it failed to mention the trip to American Eagle that started it all. ;)

[1993Kat1993]

I hope its not a real story. Who takes a dog into a clothing store anyway? Unless its a service dog. If the story is ture, I hope a lesson was learnt. I would never, ever take my dogs in a public place somewhere like Santa Monica.. Too many people. And - She does not have a mental disorder.. Tessa shivers like CRAZY when there is thunder, Sally shivers when the oil heat comes on.. Skip is manly so he doesn't get scared over things like that.. He gets freaked out during fire works, the girls get scared. BUT it is RULE OF THUMB for dogs to be locked indoors when fire works are being set off.

-~Ketlin

[bruises]

Ahahahah.

...and yeah. I've never experienced dogs being allowed in clothing stores. o_O Except sometimes in those privately owned ones, but definitely not in chain stores.

[dbl120902]

Errr... I take my dog in to Old Navy all the time, soooo.... :D

I thought it was normal... *embarrassed* :p

But seriously...

I hope its not a real story.

I wouldn't worry, there are too many details that don't run well together, the least of those being "I decided to take my dog shopping with me". ;)

[AleandraOwens20]

I can't believe you guys don't-well I can understand but its true! And it was really scary for me and so I was hoping for some support! Also, Santa Monica is VERY dog friendly place and the dogs are allowed everywhere but inside restraunts even though they allow them on their outside tables. Also,Sandy recks the house (i.e she chews window moldings and doors and such) its called blockade seperation anxiety or something like that so we have to bring her everywhere with us. Besides, it has never bothered her before and enjoys being with us and meeting new people.

[bruises]

Well, a good thing about collars is that you can hold on to them if you need to remove the leash for whatever reason.

I'm sorry, I just can't believe Santa Monica is that dog-friendly that dogs are allowed everywhere. o_O This (http://www.dogfriendly.com/server/travel/uscities/guides/w/cities/wonlinecityCALA_Beach_Area.shtml) site seems to agree with me, tho I dunno how updated that is.

"Also,Sandy recks the house (i.e she chews window moldings and doors and such) its called blockade seperation anxiety or something like that so we have to bring her everywhere with us."

That's an even bigger reason to work with her and train her, really. >_> She could seriously hurt herself, not to mention, even in a dog heaven like Santa Monica you won't be able to bring her absolutely everywhere with you; what'd happen in case of an accident? And how did you solve it when living in New York? O_o Work on diminishing and getting rid of her seperation anxiety before you end up in a situation when you absolutely have to leave her alone despite the risks.

[Punkygirl0101]

who goes over to a random dog wandering in the gap and pets it?!?! I personally don't pet a dog until their owner says there ok
If this story is true, I just wanted to mention how dumb I think this comment of yours was. Firstly, THERE WAS NO OWNER to ask. If I saw a dog wondering around that looked like it had an owner (If it had a collar and tags, did she?), I would also try and come near the dog and see if I could get it to come with me so I could find its owner. Wouldn't you want someone to get her so you could find her? Instead of letting her wander around further away and get hit by a car?

And I agree with Bruises. When I need to take my dogs leash off for any reason, I grab their collar (In my case harness) and I fix the problem, then put it back on.

[AleandraOwens20]

she did have a collar on it with our number sewn on (which no one seemed to see). also, i think she would haven't bitten them if they had stuck out their hand to sniff. She's very mellow normally....also I AM going to work on her but I have to wait ti'll school gets out so that I can be consistent. I mean, we can leave her alone for about 15 minutes now but im hoping to be able to get it to a few hours. We tried the crate but it seemed mean and cruel because we couldn't go to the beach or anything without it being longer than 5 hours and it seemed mean. Don't worry though...it wil be fixed.

[bruises]

Crate training doesn't mean you automatically have to leave the dog in there for hours and hours. You can crate train the dog and still take her with you where she's allowed, and only use the crate an hour a day or so when it's really needed. The first time with crate training you must be nearby in whatever case, especially if she's chewing doors you have to make sure she won't injure herself.

[AleandraOwens20]

Well the good thing is that no bite victim came foward and they got all of her rabies paperwork and the only thing my mom needs to do now is register her with the santa monica animal control....but if she ever bites someone agian they said.....XP

[dbl120902]

*Double post

[dbl120902]

Also,Sandy recks the house (i.e she chews window moldings and doors and such) its called blockade seperation anxiety or something like that so we have to bring her everywhere with us. Besides, it has never bothered her before and enjoys being with us and meeting new people.

You do not treat diabetes with sugar, you treat it with insulin. Meaning that you can't just take a dog everywhere with you, all of the time... it's impractical. You can't take the dog to the grocery, to the doctor's office, to school, etc... there's always going to be circumstances where the dog will need to be left alone. So, the dog needs to seek treatment. It's like rewarding a misbehaving child. It's a temporary solution to an ongoing behavioral problem, and you must handle it in the right way for the behavior to cease to exist. Not to mention, there are too many dangers to take a dog everywhere... including the one that you allegedly faced here recently.

Then we got to the pound and I was yelling over the gate and then a guy met us and he goes "oh you can't take her home today because she was involved in a bite scene." and I go "oh shit!" and so after talking (and some of my tears) we were able to take her home and quarntine her there. But seriously, who goes over to a random dog wandering in the gap and pets it?!?! I personally don't pet a dog until their owner says there ok. I mean, she's never bitten anyone before but she was probably terrified and then some wierd guy is petting her?! I would bite him too! So for until next friday if shes caught outside they'll make us pay 1,000 dollars and if the "victim" decided to sue us they could get about 35,000 dollars so Im like freaked out as crap!

Well the good thing is that no bite victim came foward and they got all of her rabies paperwork and the only thing my mom needs to do now is register her with the santa monica animal control....but if she ever bites someone agian they said.....XP

First you say that you could not take the dog because there was a bite victim who came forward... now there's not?

The only thing that's really true here, maybe (and I'm not even so sure about that... it may be just an excuse to make it sound like you were justified in taking the dog with you), is that your dog has separation anxiety and that you are not treating it, but instead are enabling your dog's behavior.

[AleandraOwens20]

I said if the victim came foward and I have been telling the truth for a LONG time and all i hear is sarcastic and/or rude comments.

[dbl120902]

I said if the victim came foward and I have been telling the truth for a LONG time and all i hear is sarcastic and/or rude comments.

I'm not going to argue with you over this because you stated that you could not take the dog home right away because she was involved in a bite scene because some "weird guy" as you put it came over and started petting it. You even stated how you would never go pet a random dog without the owner's permission. So yes, first you said that she was involved in a bite scene (and the victim would have had to come forward for the shelter/pound who picked her up to know about it), and now you're saying that the victim did not come forward, which means that nobody would have known about the bite.

This is going to sound crude, I know... but keep your lies straight.

[AleandraOwens20]

ok lemme make it clear so you guys understand...
1. Sandy bites someone in a PUBLIC PLACE, the Gap
2. The man leaves the "scene" of the bite without waiting for animal control so he can tell the
3. sandy gets picked up by animal control
4.we come and the man tells us that she was involved in a bit scence but the victim was not present when the took her.
5. We were told to home quarentine for 10 days, provide rabies, and get her licensensed for santa monica

make sense??

[dbl120902]

Not at all. How did animal control know that the dog was involved in a bite scene if the victim up and disappeared? Did you have the dog tied up outside of the store? You said the dog ran away, so the dog obviously ran off after the bite and not before... so how were they able to identify that it was your dog who bit somebody if the person who was bitten didn't come forward and identify the dog for the authorities? It makes no sense. Because it's not true. :)

[AleandraOwens20]

uughh...it IS true...ok so we were in a DIFFERENT store and she got off her leash and ran away...then we were looking for her. Then a police officer we asked told us animal control had just picked up a dog (it was 11 pm, whos dog could it be?) so we went and they said that she had walked into the Gap and bit somone (there were witnesses) and then the "victim" left. The store owner called animal control and told them she had bitten someone...please tell me understand now...

[dbl120902]

No, it's not true. First it's the Gap and then it's not and now it's the Gap again?

I'm glad it's not true, Aleandra... and you should be, too. Because if it were true, that would make you an extremely irresponsible pet owner. So you should thank your lucky stars that you have such an overactive imagination and that this did not really happen.

[AleandraOwens20]

you know what fine! Don't believe me! Im never coming on here again and when I ask for a little sympathy which no one else in this freakin world gives me im called a liar! Because you can't read right dont start accusing me of shit! That was really scary and not even my parents care and i am an animal freak at school becaue I talk about dogs instead of shoes and when I just want to talk to people who like animals like me im accused of being a liar and you never focus on what happened, just what people do wrong! Fine! I don't care! Don't believe me....but its true!

[dbl120902]

Ehhh... no. Woe is you? I think not.

Listen. Really, listen to what I have to say. It's good that you care about animals, but I think that you try to create these scenarios to try and illustrate how much you care... perhaps to prove something to us, I don't know why. You don't have to do that... you can just share real experiences to do that, not fabricated ones. Something similar to this may have happened to you, but you have already proven that the details are incorrect. Just stick to the facts and you'll be fine.

Do what you want, I'm just giving you some advice... if you follow it, you'll probably have an easier time in this world.