what fish are compatible with veiltail goldfish?

[Calichick22]

Hi It's me again,

I was wondering since i have a 45 gallon fish tank that now has water in it with 8 green fire tetras what kind of other fish can i get? I say pictures of the veiltail goldfish and they are beautiful!
Can they go in with my tetras? would it be safe? and what other fish can the veiltails go with? Well thanx for reading my post and if u have any info on the veiltails let me know! bye:idea:

[EmilyRugburn]

Originally posted by Calichick22

I was wondering since i have a 45 gallon fish tank that now has water in it with 8 green fire tetras what kind of other fish can i get?

I'm not going there again. We discussed this already ad finitum. Someone else has helped you with that, too. Please refer to those old posts.

I say pictures of the veiltail goldfish and they are beautiful!
Can they go in with my tetras? would it be safe?

No. Goldfish should be kept in a species tank ONLY. Golds are cool water fish, and terribly filthy. Green fire tetras are tropical and need warmer water.

Since you've already got the tetras, go from there with OTHER tropical fish. Leave the golds out of the equation and you'll have a successful tank.

[Calichick22]

well i am starting to turn my back on the tropical because i am having so much trouble with it. I got 8 green fire tetras, 2 serpea tetras, and 2 gourmi. Well this is what happened. one of my serpea was being mean to it's own kind and one of the gourmi wanted to get involved so he started to pick on his own kind also. So now one of my gourmi os laying down on the bottom of my fish tank breathing extremely hard. And once in a while the other gourmi goes over to it and bites him. so now he has a huge chunk in his fin and he can't swim at all. so that means he can't swim to eat the food that i feed them. I have seen him try to but he struggles and can't do it. I like my green fire tetras but my serpea are being a bad influence on my fish so now my greenies are picking on each other now. I am afraid to wake up one day and they will all be flotting on the top of my tank. WHAT DO I DO? I have looked at the other posts that yopu wrote with me many times so don't think that i haven't.:bawling:

[EmilyRugburn]

Originally posted by Calichick22
[B]well i am starting to turn my back on the tropical because i am having so much trouble with it.


I totally understand. However, one thing you should know, is that there are some goldfish which will pick on their tankmates, too, and some of them will NOT allow their tankmates to eat or anything.

I'm not trying to tell you to NOT get goldfish. My point is that there are bullies in all species, which can be a really big pain when all we want is for everyone to be nice.

I got 8 green fire tetras, 2 serpea tetras, and 2 gourmi. Well this is what happened. one of my serpea was being mean to it's own kind

Serpaes are NOT nice. They need a larger school than what you have so they can sort of "distribute" their bad attitudes throughout the bunch. They're kind of like tiger barbs in that way.

and one of the gourmi wanted to get involved so he started to pick on his own kind also.

It's possible you have 2 males. 2 males will pick on each other. With gourami it's better to get 2 females. They're hard to pick out of the tanks in the store, though, because you have to determine gender by the shapes of their fins. Store employees don't always know how to tell the difference. The dorsal fin, and the anal fin on the females will be more "rounded" and on the males it will be more "pointed".

Do you have a way to isolate the injured gourami? Like a breeding net or a hospital tank?


I like my green fire tetras but my serpea are being a bad influence on my fish so now my greenies are picking on each other now.

Well, we'd like to think that, but the truth is, they probably would have done it on their own. That's why with some species it's important to provide a LARGE school for them. If you upped the numbers of your green fires to 15, they might still pick on each other, only there would be more of a distribution of this bad attitude, and you wouldn't really notice it as much. But then, if you upped the numbers of these fish, it takes space away from the OTHER fish you'd like to buy and keep. so it's quite a dilemma.

What should you do? Well... dang. I think I would remove the sick gourami if you can. It sounds lke it's in bad shape, so don't be surprised if it doesn't recover from the beating it's taken. Don't feel guilty about this, either, it's not your fault, or anything you did or didn't do. Gourami are notorious for not getting along with each other. You've heard of kissing gourami, correct? They're not kissing. They're fighting. They can be brutal about it.

Anyway, you might want to try keeping just a single gourami in the tank and see what happens. Take the serpaes back to the store if you can. If you cannot, then you'll need to up their numbers and just deal with them until they die, which could be a few years. Up the numbers on the green fires a bit, too. You might want to go to 10. If you'd like to go up to 12, then give that a try, but for now, try 10.

If the serpaes are gone, then try adding another school of something, but not right now. Wait until you know this tank is done cycling. Has this tank finished cycling, BTW? Do you know for certain that it's ready for fish?

Yikes. I forgot about that. If this tank isn't cycled, then you're risking an ammonia spike, and that will kill the fish. You'll have to keep doing water changes and water changes in order to keep the ammonia levels down so the fish can live through it.

Anyway, don't add new fish right now. Wait & see what happens over the next week with the ammonia levels.

[Calichick22]

ok i'm getting rid of all my fish except the tetras. Maybe i will take back my tetras and get goldfish. I'll have to ask my parents. Also i there any kind of fish that are compatible with goldfish??? I would really like to know. thanx:D

[EmilyRugburn]

No. There are no fish that are compatible with golds. Golds should be kept in a species tank. In a 45g tank, you could easily put in 2 or 3 of those really pretty, fat, round fantails. 2 would be better, but 3 would be OK. You'd have to make sure you did water changes once a week without fail, though.

http://www.brooklands.co.nz/gold/fantail.htm

Be careful to not put any more than 3 in your tank. Not only will they make LOTS of waste, but if you keep stocking levels low, you'll be able to see how HUGE they get! There is no sight quite as lovely as when a fantail reaches that MASSIVE adult size. They're gigantic, like a softball.

[Calichick22]

ok well thanx for your help.